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How can we fight back against Infosys, TCS and other Indian consultancies?
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Originally posted by BlasterBates View PostThe fact is that contractors on PAYE pose no risk to the company, so there must be other reasons.
Was a simple decision for the company.Comment
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Originally posted by DimPrawn View PostContractors on PAYE are via an umbrella company. InfoSys are the preferred supplier of off payroll staff, therefore Contractors had to leave or take direct employment option (at lower pay).
Was a simple decision for the company.Last edited by BlasterBates; 27 July 2020, 15:29.I'm alright JackComment
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Originally posted by BlasterBates View PostIf contractors are refusing permie positions then it demonstrates that the market is bouyant, because they can get better rates elsewhere.Comment
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Originally posted by BlasterBates View PostThe fact is that contractors on PAYE pose no risk to the company, so there must be other reasons.The greatest trick the devil ever pulled was convincing the world that he didn't existComment
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Originally posted by LondonManc View PostYes, the fact that HMRC guidelines have dictated that companies must carry out due diligence and assess the IR35 status of every contract on its merits rather than the contractor declaring its status. The client cannot be bothered if they have 2000 contractors on site and therefore to save time and effort they push everyone through an entity like Infosys. Combine that with the lure of much cheapness and why wouldn't they?
Result, goodbye UK IT contractors.Comment
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Originally posted by DimPrawn View PostThankyou, exactly this. It's big client co, which used to have hundreds if not thousands of contractors. No way their risk and finance department was going to do this due diligence, and HR are as lazy and inept as ****. InfoSys called the senior management and presented a solution to short term onshore resourcing.
Result, goodbye UK IT contractors.The greatest trick the devil ever pulled was convincing the world that he didn't existComment
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Originally posted by LondonManc View PostUntil Infosys mob invariably fail to deliver. It's part of the contractor cycle, a bit like when companies were outsourcing IT departments pre-Wipro days them brought IT departments back inside when costs invariably spiralled. There's a chance here for Resource Solutions, Adecco, etc to step up and manage IR35 contract decisions for the client (albeit having to take responsibility for them and demonstrate that the value v risk is better than Infosys et al).Comment
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If clients had wanted to push contractors out the door and get in InfoSys or similar they could have done it years ago. As most clients have just stopped using PSC Contractors and moved to inside IR35 as opposed to assessing every contract I am not sure the new paradigm is going to force them into the hands of the consultancies.
It makes us less competitive, which is good for them, but I am not convinced it is a knockout blow.Comment
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Originally posted by LondonManc View PostYes, the fact that HMRC guidelines have dictated that companies must carry out due diligence and assess the IR35 status of every contract on its merits rather than the contractor declaring its status. The client cannot be bothered if they have 2000 contractors on site and therefore to save time and effort they push everyone through an entity like Infosys. Combine that with the lure of much cheapness and why wouldn't they?Last edited by BlasterBates; 27 July 2020, 19:19.I'm alright JackComment
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