Oracle Developer needs a change [HELP !]

[DS23]

Why would people want to upgrade to 12 when fusion in round some corner.

well r12 is the next major upgrade of a known entity but fusion is a whole new ball game: new architecture and new forms - it is meant to be a melding of the best of the best from oracle, siebel, peoplesoft, jd edwards etc.

most customers out there will migrate sensibly from r11 to r12 and then take fusion as and when it makes sense but there will also be cutting edge greenfield customers who will take fusion route when it arrives.

fusion offers a potential quick entry into lucrative oracle apps work because it is spanking new - the playing field of experience is levelled...

[orabod]

Switch to DBA

If I were you I would also consider switching from Oracle developer to an Oracle DBA role. Thsi is what I did a few years ago when all the Oracle Forms/Reports contracts started to dry up very quickly. Most of the Oracle DBA jobs I do now have J2EE front ends and the Java programmers on the project struggle to write efficeint SQL - which is also where I (and you) come in.

[Robwg]

Someone told me i could do the courses back to back with Oracle india and its still going to work out miles cheaper than Oracle UK. only problem is I dont think i can afford the time off work.

the courses aren't that great though - they are very much from a functional point of view and don't really teach you the little tricks that you need to know as a developer.

They are aimed at functional consultants implementing Oracle - not techies sadly.

[css_jay99]

If I were you I would also consider switching from Oracle developer to an Oracle DBA role. Thsi is what I did a few years ago when all the Oracle Forms/Reports contracts started to dry up very quickly. Most of the Oracle DBA jobs I do now have J2EE front ends and the Java programmers on the project struggle to write efficeint SQL - which is also where I (and you) come in.

I was not really looking to go the dba route, without offending i find that dba's in big institutions like banks dont do as much as smaller institutions. Further Its a big shift to market myself as a dba after doing some courses

fusion offers a potential quick entry into lucrative oracle apps work because it is spanking new - the playing field of experience is levelled...

Is fusion only for HRMS only OR for all the others apps as well? i.e payroll... financials .....
can you elaborate on why you think HRMS is the fastest growing of oracle apps

the courses aren't that great though - they are very much from a functional point of view and don't really teach you the little tricks that you need to know as a developer.

They are aimed at functional consultants implementing Oracle - not techies sadly.

There has got to be a way of learning the techi stuff without having to pay oracle UK


Basically I think i have another 7yrs max of coding left in be before gcse students start getting jobs as coders. i dont want to go through midlife crissis as well as job loss at the same time. thats why oracle apps seem appealling especially finaly moving into functional roles.


Anyone here gone the bootcamp route ( oracle/SAP/seibel/or any app...) and then managed to wiggle their way in?

css_jay99

[DS23]

Is fusion only for HRMS only OR for all the others apps as well? i.e payroll... financials .....
can you elaborate on why you think HRMS is the fastest growing of oracle apps
css_jay99

fusion will cover all the modules. the longer term wacky backy pipe dream strategy for oracle will be to close the e-business, siebel, jd edwards and peoplesoft apps and have one package that does it all. no doubt it will be released in chunks - financials then scm then crm.

why hr? over the past 5 years or so hr seems to have had the biggest demand and the smallest supply - thats all. you could go ultra niche and learn mobile replenishment or something but then you will really struggle to get many contracts. hr is a nice niche module with plenty of work around.

sure, financials has the biggest footprint but there are plenty of specialists in that area.

plus my advice was re the ability to get into oracle quickly - afaik hr is a relatively self contained module that would could be sensibly learned in and of itself.

if you go "financials" you really need more than one module (general ledger, accounts receivable, accounts payable etc.) and then the learning task becomes greater.

hth

[css_jay99]

Thanks DS23,

What you said regarding HR makes sence