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    #21
    Originally posted by skedaddle View Post
    There’s been some development - although they’re still insisting I can’t go end of Feb, they’re saying I can leave the end of the following week. They want “more (handover) sessions” with me next week.
    Just all feels like a very messy ending - haven’t had this before.
    It's a rubbish ending but they are starting to bend in the right way and what OG says just above as well.

    I still think this could have been avoided if you'd been more proactive right at the beginning though.
    Last edited by northernladuk; 26 February 2019, 20:35.
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      #22
      Originally posted by northernladuk View Post
      So what? Challenge it at contract signing and try get it reduced.

      I haven't been on a month's notice for a long time know so can't really be the norm can it?

      Surprising response from you that MS.
      Sure - if you can negotiate less, then that's dandy, but I would expect the client to be questioning your commitment to their project. A sample of one isn't always representative.

      Both the QDOS and IPSE contract templates (previous - haven't checked current IPSE) have 30 days notice for the contractor.

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        #23
        Originally posted by mudskipper View Post
        Sure - if you can negotiate less, then that's dandy, but I would expect the client to be questioning your commitment to their project. A sample of one isn't always representative.

        Both the QDOS and IPSE contract templates (previous - haven't checked current IPSE) have 30 days notice for the contractor.
        The QDOS one says..

        <<Both parties should have equal rights of termination, the notice period should be as short as possible and ideally not exceed 30 days>>

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          #24
          Originally posted by northernladuk View Post
          A more experienced contractor is also unlikely to accept a months notice either.
          True.

          Originally posted by northernladuk View Post
          That should have been chopped to a week before contract signing.
          No it shouldn't.

          A real business would not have any notice period in the contract at all - you deliver what you said you'd deliver, and you leave at the end of the contract. The contract that my client has with their client does not give them a clause to walk away mid contract with a week / month / year notice - they are there to deliver (as am I!) and will deliver or pay the penalty clause.
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            #25
            Originally posted by northernladuk View Post
            So what? Challenge it at contract signing and try get it reduced.

            I haven't been on a month's notice for a long time know so can't really be the norm can it?

            Surprising response from you that MS.
            Always a month for me, I’ve never really considered reducing it either.

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              #26
              same here, not really relevant to the realities of any gig IMMHO

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                #27
                Originally posted by DeludedKitten View Post
                True.
                A real business would not have any notice period in the contract at all
                Lol. Well not really. Termination clauses protect both the client and the contractor.
                Last edited by northernladuk; 27 February 2019, 20:50.
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                  #28
                  Originally posted by northernladuk View Post
                  Lol. Well not really. Termination clauses protect both the client and the contractor.
                  You'll have to explain how being able to walk out in a week protects the client because I'm missing that one.

                  My clients can always terminate with immediate effect (or close to it). My contacts are generally set up so that my company cannot walk out the door with little notice.
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                    #29
                    Originally posted by DeludedKitten View Post
                    You'll have to explain how being able to walk out in a week protects the client because I'm missing that one.
                    Spin it around client might not want you for the full term either.
                    My clients can always terminate with immediate effect (or close to it). My contacts are generally set up so that my company cannot walk out the door with little notice.
                    So you have unequal termination. Nothing wrong with that.
                    Last edited by northernladuk; 27 February 2019, 23:07.
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                      #30
                      Lots of clients with no notice contractor side. And they won't change it.

                      You accept it or you don't ultimately....
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