Difficult start to contract

[northernladuk]

Why does the client insist on verifying the "right to work" of the IT contractor but not of the photocopier repairman?

Possibly because they are two completely different models? Apples and pears.

[billybiro]

Got to pick your battles though Billy. Not everything is worth kicking off about.....

Are you happy to be classified as an employee and pay tax like one?

[billybiro]

Possibly because they are two completely different models? Apples and pears.

No, they're not. Having the right to work in the UK is something that applies equally to the photocopier repairman, the IT Contractor, the cleaning lady and the CEO.

Why are some verified for this, but others not?

[LondonManc]

No, they're not. Having the right to work in the UK is something that applies equally to the photocopier repairman, the IT Contractor, the cleaning lady and the CEO.

Why are some verified for this, but others not?

Yet you keep missing the point. It's not just about having the right to work in the UK. It's about proving who you are and that you are qualified as claimed. They want you to prove that you got the degree you did - that's absolutely nothing to do with your right to work in the UK as you don't need a degree to do so.

[northernladuk]

No, they're not. Having the right to work in the UK is something that applies equally to the photocopier repairman, the IT Contractor, the cleaning lady and the CEO.

Why are some verified for this, but others not?

Yes they are. The contract between the client is different, the services and the way they are offered are different and then on top of that there is the client that is possibly being overly cautious over someone that's on site full time for 6+ months and someone that pops in on call and unlikely to even be the same person.

So the client might have it technically wrong. You go ahead and refuse to comply. So much win.

[billybiro]

Yet you keep missing the point. It's not just about having the right to work in the UK. It's about proving who you are and that you are qualified as claimed. They want you to prove that you got the degree you did - that's absolutely nothing to do with your right to work in the UK as you don't need a degree to do so.

All of which is the legal responsibility of your limited co. and not the client co.

Same as ABC Photocopier Repairs Ltd. has the legal responsibility to prove who Pedro is and that he's qualified to perform his duties as a photocopier repairman.

Or are your contracts between client co. and LondonManc, the person?

[billybiro]

So the client might have it technically wrong.

Finally, some sanity.

[billybiro]

Yes they are. The contract between the client is different, the services and the way they are offered are different and then on top of that there is the client that is possibly being overly cautious over someone that's on site full time for 6+ months and someone that pops in on call and unlikely to even be the same person.

And, in the specific case regarding right to work, does the contract somehow change the law on that?

[northernladuk]

And, in the specific case regarding right to work, does the contract somehow change the law on that?

What a ridiculous argument this is...

Anyway, interesting article on exactly this inconsistency..

Why Right to Work checks aren't consistent :: Contractor UK

Bottom line is..

My conclusion is that there is a lack of consistency in right to work checks dependent on the type of contract used, which some less scrupulous businesses may take advantage of. Best practice for recruiters is to carry out the checks in any event.

So the law might be wrong, the application of it inconsistent but best practice is do it and be covered. All we need is some pillock to come along and tell them he won't do it now and see what happens.

[LondonManc]

All of which is the legal responsibility of your limited co. and not the client co.

What does it say in the contract?

Same as ABC Photocopier Repairs Ltd. has the legal responsibility to prove who Pedro is and that he's qualified to perform his duties as a photocopier repairman.

So you're guessing what it says in the Client to ABC contract now? Excellent.

Or are your contracts between client co. and LondonManc, the person?

They are signed on behalf of myco by me as Managing Director and majority shareholder.

My point still stands, which you have conveniently ducked: have you proved via a vetting agency that you are who you are to your limited company?