State of the Market

[hungry_hog]

I’m not sure age itself is the factor, as much as a client assuming that someone with 20 year’s experience will want a much higher rate

Place I was at before was very keen on Power BI and Python. These are skills easily picked up at Uni by any STEM student, so in effect we are competing with people who are happy to work for 35k. A lot of the domain knowledge can be learnt on the job.

Place was full of recent grads and people over 40 were rare. This was a large blue blood UK asset manager, not some trendy start up!

I don't put my DOB but my age can be roughly worked out from my experience. The challenge for me is a lot of clients want experience and are perfectly aware you won't be there in 6 months or a years time so age isn't a problem.

I had an interview with two people who were probably in their early 30s last week. To be fair I did fall over a question so can understand why I didn't get it but the feedback was worded that my testing knowledge wasn't 'modern enough', which certain hints that they thought any lack of knowledge on my part was caused by age as opposed to just being a lack of knowledge caused by a lack of knowledge.

[SchumiStars]

Had a phone call from an agent today, honestly think they are taking the Michael.

5 days onsite, Elephant and Castle (horrible!), Active SC, £190 per day inside. After tax, travelling expenses and lunch, £80pd.

Even though, I am out of contract, that was ridiculous.

[BigDataPro]

Had a phone call from an agent today, honestly think they are taking the Michael.

5 days onsite, Elephant and Castle (horrible!), Active SC, £190 per day inside. After tax, travelling expenses and lunch, £80pd.

Even though, I am out of contract, that was ridiculous.

I think I have said it before. These type of ads are deliberately designed to discourage anyone local from applying. You know why!

[Paracelsus]

https://jobserve.com/gb/en/find-jobs...0DC17584CC15A/

£200pd, but not asking for a lot - just backend, frontend, SQL and Azure.

[SussexSeagull]

From the sound of it you need to use your off time to learn all the modern ways of testing.

There isn't really a modern way of testing. The Agile manifesto was agreed in 2001 and Agile was around before that.

Putting aside the full on testing tools, Selenium, etc., to one side I have been using SQL for a couple of decades and whenever I need to use something new to me like, for example, Postman a couple of years back, someone showed it to me and away I went. As I said I did fall over on one question but that was to do with being blindsided by something not on the job description, not being stuck in the early part of the century.

Next time round I will probably be interviewed by someone who values experience and it will be a different conversation. You can't win them all.

[oliverson]

I don't think this is going to help matters either:

https://news.sky.com/story/biggest-us-tech-sell-off-for-over-a-decade-reflects-impatience-on-ai-profits-13184676

[OzzieExpat]

There isn't really a modern way of testing. The Agile manifesto was agreed in 2001 and Agile was around before that.

Putting aside the full on testing tools, Selenium, etc., to one side I have been using SQL for a couple of decades and whenever I need to use something new to me like, for example, Postman a couple of years back, someone showed it to me and away I went. As I said I did fall over on one question but that was to do with being blindsided by something not on the job description, not being stuck in the early part of the century.

Next time round I will probably be interviewed by someone who values experience and it will be a different conversation. You can't win them all.

I wonder as it's a legacy project if includes a time machine to take you back to prices as they were in 1994. I remember back then rates being around the £250 a day mark for a mid level role.

[SchumiStars]

I have never posted so much on this site

FFS, I hate this tulip.

[escapeUK]

There isn't really a modern way of testing. The Agile manifesto was agreed in 2001 and Agile was around before that.

Just had feedback from my interview on Friday and apparently my 'testing experience isn't modern enough'. To be fair I did trip over a technical question (admittedly on something that wasn't on the job description so was blindsided over) but both interviews were probably 30 and under.

When you said technical and modern I thought you was saying that there were some new modern techniques you needed to learn that were not mentioned in the job description.

[Unix]

Still seems quiet out there, however got extended till end of the year and happily accepted.