Views on failed clauses

[FrontEnder]

Indeed but was taking the context given by the OP that it's a BIG FAT fail, the consultancy won't change it yet the OP is only 'considering'not taking it. Yes he should get QDOS to negotiate but if they consultancy won't change his got to leave it surely?

No, he can still take it and work under IR35.

[northernladuk]

No, he can still take it and work under IR35.

Indeed but I was assuming there is enough work out there that anyone worth their salt didn't need to take an Inside IR35 gig.

There are of course the droves that don't do any diligence and would take it ignorant of it's IR35 status and just continue as normal. Good luck to them, I wouldn't have thought any decent contractor would have been part of that army. But if you are aware of it and do the diligence that fails then surely you'd drop it and get a proper gig.

Each to their own I guess.

[northernladuk]

Also the point that struck me when I read the first post was, if that is the contract is that bad what the hell are the working practices like. Yes it's possible there is no link at all but it gets my alarm bells going.

[FiveTimes]

Indeed but was taking the context given by the OP that it's a BIG FAT fail, the consultancy won't change it yet the OP is only 'considering'not taking it. Yes he should get QDOS to negotiate but if they consultancy won't change his got to leave it surely?

I walked away from the last failed review from Qdos and unless they change the terms I'll do the same.

I could work inside but as it involves a lot of travel and expense.

[Old Greg]

I walked away from the last failed review from Qdos and unless they change the terms I'll do the same.

I could work inside but as it involves a lot of travel and expense.

Maybe have some fun and quote them an inside IR35 rate?

[dx4100]

It is better than the bench...

If I needed the money I would take it, operate as IR35 caught and push money towards my pension.

I am surprised someone with so many posts would bother to have such a poor contract reviewed. It was always going to fail.

[LondonManc]

Also the point that struck me when I read the first post was, if that is the contract is that bad what the hell are the working practices like. Yes it's possible there is no link at all but it gets my alarm bells going.

Sorry pal, but that's the only logical thing that you've posted all thread.

Ideally you want an outside of IR35 contract.
If it is, then great, in you go.
If it isn't, then there are decisions to make in terms of the long/short term pay off of taking the gig. Going full-on PAYE for 6 months isn't the end of the world if the day rate is fantastic and being outside is simply a bonus. To turn something down blindly because it's inside IR35 is misleading.

[dx4100]

I could work inside but as it involves a lot of travel and expense.

Ah walk away from it then.

[northernladuk]

Sorry pal, but that's the only logical thing that you've posted all thread.

Ideally you want an outside of IR35 contract.
If it is, then great, in you go.
If it isn't, then there are decisions to make in terms of the long/short term pay off of taking the gig. Going full-on PAYE for 6 months isn't the end of the world if the day rate is fantastic and being outside is simply a bonus. To turn something down blindly because it's inside IR35 is misleading.

Not so sure I said blindly. I did mention later my assumptions in an earlier post so it's down to choice. My personal choice is to walk away from it as so far I have been able to get a gig in time to make it worth it taking the gamble. Another assumption I made is most would do the same. Didn't realise I had to explain so many assumptions to try make a decent point but there you go.

[LondonManc]

Not so sure I said blindly. I did mention later my assumptions in an earlier post so it's down to choice. My personal choice is to walk away from it as so far I have been able to get a gig in time to make it worth it taking the gamble. Another assumption I made is most would do the same. Didn't realise I had to explain so many assumptions to try make a decent point but there you go.

Clearly you did you grumpy old sod