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    #11
    Hi Everyone,

    Sorry for the delayed reply, as of today the client has point blank refused to sign any of the timesheets for anyone that worked for them on this project(4 contractors ) stating that they were unhappy with the work. I know for a fact, because I was there, that the end client that we were delivering this software for IS happy and that there are some very minor blockers for the piece of work to go live.

    I am at a complete loss as to what to do here, for instance had it been a direct client I would be issuing court papers, but it seems through an agency, opted out, without a signed timesheet I have absolutely no recourse?

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      #12
      Originally posted by marcfielding View Post
      Hi Everyone,

      Sorry for the delayed reply, as of today the client has point blank refused to sign any of the timesheets for anyone that worked for them on this project(4 contractors ) stating that they were unhappy with the work. I know for a fact, because I was there, that the end client that we were delivering this software for IS happy and that there are some very minor blockers for the piece of work to go live.

      I am at a complete loss as to what to do here, for instance had it been a direct client I would be issuing court papers, but it seems through an agency, opted out, without a signed timesheet I have absolutely no recourse?


      OK, so you were not working through an agent to the client, but it was:


      End Client - Contractor - Agent - You.




      And who is telling you that the Contractor is refusing to sign? Is it your agent?


      Also, what have you "opted out" of? Is it the working time directive or the conduct of employment agencies?


      Name & shame the contractor and the agent!
      …Maybe we ain’t that young anymore

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        #13
        Originally posted by marcfielding View Post
        Hi Everyone,

        Sorry for the delayed reply, as of today the client has point blank refused to sign any of the timesheets for anyone that worked for them on this project(4 contractors ) stating that they were unhappy with the work. I know for a fact, because I was there, that the end client that we were delivering this software for IS happy and that there are some very minor blockers for the piece of work to go live.

        I am at a complete loss as to what to do here, for instance had it been a direct client I would be issuing court papers, but it seems through an agency, opted out, without a signed timesheet I have absolutely no recourse?
        You still have recourse, but it will be significantly more challenging to pursue your claim and much will rest on the specifics within your contract. If you have any legal cover now would be a good time to have your contract reviewed.

        As far as the agency goes, what if anything are they saying in relation to this situation? Presumably they wont want to be left out of pocket either...
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          #14
          Are you certain that you opted out, in writing, before being introduced to the client? Because if not, then you invoice the agency and chase when they don't pay.

          If so, then you need to go back to the client and get them to sign the timesheet, or you push the agency to push the client - because otherwise you aren't getting any money.
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            #15
            Originally posted by marcfielding View Post
            Hi Everyone,

            Sorry for the delayed reply, as of today the client has point blank refused to sign any of the timesheets for anyone that worked for them on this project(4 contractors ) stating that they were unhappy with the work. I know for a fact, because I was there, that the end client that we were delivering this software for IS happy and that there are some very minor blockers for the piece of work to go live.

            I am at a complete loss as to what to do here, for instance had it been a direct client I would be issuing court papers, but it seems through an agency, opted out, without a signed timesheet I have absolutely no recourse?
            That old chestnut. Not the first and wont be the last client to try this one on.

            They're possibly thinking of a way to get some cracking work done for free. Tell contractor it was crap and you're not paying. They think no timesheet and they're in the clear. Very poor way to do business but it happens.

            Happened to me once for just a one-day gig. Complete stitch up.

            If it was me I'd be getting the invoice in and claim if necessary. Might work for your favour that there were 4 of you. If you're the only one to pursue it they might pay you to go away knowing they've got a bargain still by only paying one person.
            Rhyddid i lofnod psychocandy!!!!

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              #16
              Would it help to ask what is wrong and offer to fix it?

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                #17
                Originally posted by marcfielding View Post

                I am at a complete loss as to what to do here, for instance had it been a direct client I would be issuing court papers, but it seems through an agency, opted out, without a signed timesheet I have absolutely no recourse?
                Depends what your contract says.

                Depends if you opted out properly

                Depends if you have any other proof that the work was OK

                Personally I would invoice the agency, see what happens and follow Dunning if necessary.

                BTW I've had an client try that on with me. However I made sure I copied some message that proved I had done the work they claimed I hadn't and that there was no issues with it plus my contract didn't rely on the timesheet to get paid.
                "You’re just a bad memory who doesn’t know when to go away" JR

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                  #18
                  Originally posted by marcfielding View Post
                  Hi Everyone,

                  Sorry for the delayed reply, as of today the client has point blank refused to sign any of the timesheets for anyone that worked for them on this project(4 contractors ) stating that they were unhappy with the work. I know for a fact, because I was there, that the end client that we were delivering this software for IS happy and that there are some very minor blockers for the piece of work to go live.

                  I am at a complete loss as to what to do here, for instance had it been a direct client I would be issuing court papers, but it seems through an agency, opted out, without a signed timesheet I have absolutely no recourse?
                  Can someone get Gideon to read this thread (and many more like it) disguised employees my ar$e..

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                    #19
                    Originally posted by SlipTheJab View Post
                    Can someone get Gideon to read this thread (and many more like it) disguised employees my ar$e..
                    Hopefully some, on here, will read it.

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                    The Chunt of Chunts.

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                      #20
                      Originally posted by SlipTheJab View Post
                      Can someone get Gideon to read this thread (and many more like it) disguised employees my ar$e..
                      Unfortunately the number of "tell them how big your yacht is" or "it must be depressing having to pay a mortgage over the age of 35" posts far outweigh the "client haven't paid me for 30+ days oh no help me" posts - don't think CUK is a good place for HMRC sympathy

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