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Would a permie do your commute?

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    #21
    I've been both permy and contract currently permy scum and my commute is the longest I have ever had 1.5hrs each way a good day 30mins walk and 1hr tube, if I was a contractor I wouldn't do it, but good permy jobs on ok £ are hard to find so I suck it up.
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      #22
      Originally posted by TykeMerc View Post
      I totally disagree that it's an edge case, I can't think of a single project I've delivered in the last decade where there weren't multiple permies on remote deployment and expensing extensively. I did 2 years at BAE where 90% of the three thousand or so permies were on expensed secondment from other areas of the country.
      As you've accepted it's irrelevant if they're contractor or permanent there are people working on client sites for extended periods on T&S expenses, it's incredibly common in the large IT consultancies in all functions outside of BAU support and it's not unknown in BAU either for that matter.

      The poll IS meaningless and increasingly so, there are hundreds of thousands of permies working on projects and client sites charging at least as much if not considerably more T&S than we do as contractors.
      Permie consultants do indeed do a lot of commuting. However, most (permie) IT workers are not consultants, hence while it might not be an edge case, it is nonetheless a minority.

      While many permies would love to do the commute I do now (20 mins door to door with 10 min tram ride), they certainly wouldn't have been happy to do the commutes I used to do, which involved staying away from home during the week. Very few permies, consultant or otherwise, would want to work long commutes if the expenses were not met by their company. I used to commute, as a permie, 180° of the M25. 3 hours on the road each day. But I would not have done that if I'd not had a company car with fuel provided. And a swutting massive salary.
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        #23
        Originally posted by ELBBUBKUNPS View Post
        I've been both permy and contract currently permy scum and my commute is the longest I have ever had 1.5hrs each way a good day 30mins walk and 1hr tube, if I was a contractor I wouldn't do it, but good permy jobs on ok £ are hard to find so I suck it up.
        I've done over 3 hours each way before. WOuldn't do it as a permie without the T&S relief.

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          #24
          Originally posted by TykeMerc View Post
          I totally disagree that it's an edge case, I can't think of a single project I've delivered in the last decade where there weren't multiple permies on remote deployment and expensing extensively. I did 2 years at BAE where 90% of the three thousand or so permies were on expensed secondment from other areas of the country.
          As you've accepted it's irrelevant if they're contractor or permanent there are people working on client sites for extended periods on T&S expenses, it's incredibly common in the large IT consultancies in all functions outside of BAU support and it's not unknown in BAU either for that matter.

          The poll IS meaningless and increasingly so, there are hundreds of thousands of permies working on projects and client sites charging at least as much if not considerably more T&S than we do as contractors.
          At the same time, that situation is incredibly rare in the projects I've worked on in the last decade.

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            #25
            current commute c 2 hrs each way, but trains are quiet and it doesnt involve london faffing.

            A permie consultant would do my current commute

            A permie at clientco would NOT - they dont pay the best so travel costs would consume far too much of their salary.

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              #26
              Many do, it's a 1hr commute sometimes 1hr20 if traffic is bad.

              But I have friends that are still working at my first ever job 5 years ago earning about £3000/year more than when they started on a graduate salary.

              If there's one thing I've learned is that there are a lot of people out there who have no ambition and will put up with any old crap as long as their company gives them a cake on their birthday and a pat on the head now and then, maybe a bone shaped biscuit.

              So to answer your question, yes they would, but no-one on here that was ambitious enough to become a contractor would.
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                #27
                I've had permie commutes I've hated, others have been great. Same for contracts. Never worried about a contract commute because I can simply not extend if I don't like it.
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