Agency behaviour

[mudskipper]

Agents lie.

Really - it's gone, take hit of growsum and move on up! As soon as there is the slightest hint of disinterest from the agent drop it, schoolboy stuff really....

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[Debz]

None of you are getting it. There is an offer for me and I have not rejected it so why would it be gone. I have not rejected it.

[SlipTheJab]

None of you are getting it. There is an offer for me and I have not rejected it so why would it be gone. I have not rejected it.

Who made you the offer, the agency? As they are the only ones who can, the client may want you but they need to go via the agency. If you are trying to reduce the agencies margin then they may well be telling the client that you have refused their offer so that they can someone else in that will make them more money. Unless you have a direct line to the client (via LinkedIn maybe) the agency can get away with this underhand behaviour I'm afraid.

[MicrosoftBob]

If that is the case then why have they told me that they are waiting to speak to the hiring manager. I have never said that I wasnt happy with original rate just wondered if they could offer more as I was told the rate I was put forward for was not the threshold. If I have blown it then why not just tell me that my re-negotiations have been rejected and do I want to proceed with original offer or not.

To keep you as a standby incase they can't get someone suitable at a lower rate

[Debz]

I am not sure if I am being replaced to be honest as it is a large scale project and they require many more contractors, agency told me that there are still 15 positions to fill.

[mrv]

Where NLUK is when you need him...


I don't know how you behave and talk to the agency or the clients, but here you give off very needy, clingy, whiney and impatient vibe. Does your life depend on this contract? Cool down a bit, mate, it's not the end of the world. You seem to have made a couple of massive mistakes, so your situation is understandably unclear.

First of all, never discuss your rate with the end client. Agency pays you, agency deals with the client, takes the money from the client, and gives you what you have agreed with the agency. What you were presented with as the rate was X pd, agency will charge the client with X+Y pd, so now the client might think X is what they should be paying, and you will receive X-Y pd. Agency knows you will be very upset with that, so they are in no rush to move forward with you at all.

Second, do your research before you talk. You knew your potential daily rate, you knew where the client is located at, so go to work. Now you look like a fool trying to squeeze the absolute maximum and pissing everybody off. "Can I get X?" - "Sure." - "But can I get X+5?" - "OK" - "But what about X+10?" This makes you look like someone who cannot take care of himself, so how are you going to work on this big project? I bet the difference in costs is a single digit in daily rate terms, you should had just sucked it up and done a better preparations job next time.

Third, are you a lost puppy or a teenage attention whore? Agents will tell you everything they have to tell you the second they have something to tell you. Call her once if you really have to, leave a message, drop an email a few days later, if no response - move on. Forget about the role, project, agent. They said something about some offer, are you sure you heard them correctly? What was offered to whom by who? if there really is an offer, you will hear about it in no uncertain terms, until then there is no offer. Man up, cool down, enjoy the weather, you will have your role sooner than you think.

[SueEllen]

I am not sure if I am being replaced to be honest as it is a large scale project and they require many more contractors, agency told me that there are still 15 positions to fill.

So.

They may have 15 contractor roles to fill but if you are asking for a different rate after originally agreeing one the agency and client can decide you are too much hassle.

Generally the rate you agree initially is the rate you get. There are some circumstances where that rate decreases and a few where it increases.

In your case you didn't have the client details so you were on the back foot as soon as you said I need to re-negotiate your rate.

In future work out if the rate is enough to live on BEFORE you go to the interview. Then make sure you get the clients details at interview.

NOW just look for a new role as this one has gone.

[Yampy]

Not been contracting long but I have learned quickly that it's a buyer's market out there and the agents have a lot of choice of candidates unless your skills are very niche. Really the rate should have been nailed down before interview so that all parties were clear. Got to look at it as a lesson learned and hopefully you will get another role soon

[tractor]

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None of you are getting it. There is an offer for me and I have not rejected it so why would it be gone. I have not rejected it.

It is you who are not getting it. They burned you but wont tell you because if they don't come up with someone else, they can send you in.

Get over it and get some more interviews booked in and this time, check out the costs before agreeing the rate.

[Eirikur]

None of you are getting it. There is an offer for me and I have not rejected it so why would it be gone. I have not rejected it.

You're not getting it. The agency dropped you. They lie. Get on with it and start looking for other contracts immediately.