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    #21
    Originally posted by TheFaQQer View Post
    FTFY
    *which i can legaly cancel, giving 1 week notice.

    Not that I will

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      #22
      Originally posted by diseasex View Post
      *which i can legaly cancel, giving 1 week notice.

      Not that I will
      If you can give notice and want to leave / not start, then give notice and leave / not start.

      Is your point that you want to do that but people have advised you not to do that?
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        #23
        Originally posted by diseasex View Post
        *which i can legaly cancel, giving 1 week notice.

        Not that I will
        You don't cancel contracts by giving notice. The clue is in the title of the section detailing notice.
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          #24
          I'll tell you what I'd do.

          If the second contract is a sure thing, I'd talk to the first client. I'd simply say, "I've had another offer, and it is better than this one. I've given my word here, and I'll stick by it, I'm not going to leave you hanging. But if you had another candidate that you viewed about equally with me, I wouldn't mind at all if you went with him instead."

          You'll like the guy you see in your mirror. They'll respect you either way. Agent will have nothing to say if the client decides to go another direction.

          If you are far better than their other candidates, they might even increase the rate to keep you. If there is someone else just as good, they'll go another direction and you are clear but they'll remember you in a good light rather than a bad light. Whatever they decide, they'll walk out of that conversation saying, "This guy handled this like a real professional." They'll generally treat you well because you treated them well -- not always, but most people work that way.

          And if you stay with them, at worst you will have laid the groundwork for an increase in rate at renewal, because they know you can get gigs at a higher rate than they are paying you.

          That's what I'd do. YMMV.

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            #25
            I see "dizzy" got tired of starting his own troll threads and is trolling somebody else's thread now.

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              #26
              Originally posted by WordIsBond View Post
              I'll tell you what I'd do.

              If the second contract is a sure thing, I'd talk to the first client. I'd simply say, "I've had another offer, and it is better than this one. I've given my word here, and I'll stick by it, I'm not going to leave you hanging. But if you had another candidate that you viewed about equally with me, I wouldn't mind at all if you went with him instead."

              You'll like the guy you see in your mirror. They'll respect you either way. Agent will have nothing to say if the client decides to go another direction.

              If you are far better than their other candidates, they might even increase the rate to keep you. If there is someone else just as good, they'll go another direction and you are clear but they'll remember you in a good light rather than a bad light. Whatever they decide, they'll walk out of that conversation saying, "This guy handled this like a real professional." They'll generally treat you well because you treated them well -- not always, but most people work that way.

              And if you stay with them, at worst you will have laid the groundwork for an increase in rate at renewal, because they know you can get gigs at a higher rate than they are paying you.

              That's what I'd do. YMMV.
              That's great advice tbf. Really recommend this approach.

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                #27
                Originally posted by diseasex View Post
                Hi guys I have similar situation. Ive got a gig and that company is kindly waiting my entire notice because I was best candidate. Now half way through notice I went for another interview and immediately got it - 50 more daily , closer to home and more importantly - better technologies (better paid).
                This would be my first contract
                Now because they are waiting my notice and I already signed the contract I would be total ass to back out now and probably burn the bridge with agent that was fighting with them so they would wait the notice?

                Your thoughts?
                Look after number 1
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                  #28
                  Originally posted by WordIsBond View Post
                  I'll tell you what I'd do.

                  If the second contract is a sure thing, I'd talk to the first client. I'd simply say, "I've had another offer, and it is better than this one. I've given my word here, and I'll stick by it, I'm not going to leave you hanging. But if you had another candidate that you viewed about equally with me, I wouldn't mind at all if you went with him instead."

                  You'll like the guy you see in your mirror. They'll respect you either way. Agent will have nothing to say if the client decides to go another direction.

                  If you are far better than their other candidates, they might even increase the rate to keep you. If there is someone else just as good, they'll go another direction and you are clear but they'll remember you in a good light rather than a bad light. Whatever they decide, they'll walk out of that conversation saying, "This guy handled this like a real professional." They'll generally treat you well because you treated them well -- not always, but most people work that way.

                  And if you stay with them, at worst you will have laid the groundwork for an increase in rate at renewal, because they know you can get gigs at a higher rate than they are paying you.

                  That's what I'd do. YMMV.
                  That wouldn't work for 2 reasons in my case:
                  I don't have direct line to the customer yet
                  They immediately stopped interviewing after my interview, and before that they couldn't find a candidate so I doubt they have anyone else

                  But the advice is good, and ill keep that in mind for the future, thanks!

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                    #29
                    Originally posted by psychocandy View Post
                    Look after number 1
                    Indeed but acting liking a tosser and dumping clients for a couple of quid more isn't always the best way of doing that in the long run.
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                      #30
                      Originally posted by WordIsBond View Post
                      I'll tell you what I'd do.

                      If the second contract is a sure thing, I'd talk to the first client. I'd simply say, "I've had another offer, and it is better than this one. I've given my word here, and I'll stick by it, I'm not going to leave you hanging. But if you had another candidate that you viewed about equally with me, I wouldn't mind at all if you went with him instead."

                      You'll like the guy you see in your mirror. They'll respect you either way. Agent will have nothing to say if the client decides to go another direction.

                      If you are far better than their other candidates, they might even increase the rate to keep you. If there is someone else just as good, they'll go another direction and you are clear but they'll remember you in a good light rather than a bad light. Whatever they decide, they'll walk out of that conversation saying, "This guy handled this like a real professional." They'll generally treat you well because you treated them well -- not always, but most people work that way.

                      And if you stay with them, at worst you will have laid the groundwork for an increase in rate at renewal, because they know you can get gigs at a higher rate than they are paying you.

                      That's what I'd do. YMMV.
                      I like this, but there are probably still clients out there who would assume your just trying to leverage the rate.

                      So while you might get the outcome you want (role withdrawn) you might still get a bad name.

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