General Election predictions

[minestrone]

There could be more of those soon as per the will of the hardline Brexiters.

I find this argument the lowest of the remainer barrel.

It suggests that people in NI are not able to deal with politics without violence and accepts the terrorist's argument that violence is necessary for political change. The peace process has been a success because the population wants it.

It also gives the impression that Britain leaving the EU is on the same scale as internment, plural voting and the army shooting people when they complained about the general tulipness of the situation. It delegitimises the fookwitery of the human rights situation in the 60/70 and compares it to a trade agreement.

[minestrone]

And people in the IRA love the border that everyone says is not there..

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[WTFH]

I find this argument the lowest of the remainer barrel.

It suggests that people in NI are not able to deal with politics without violence and accepts the terrorist's argument that violence is necessary for political change. The peace process has been a success because the population wants it.

It also gives the impression that Britain leaving the EU is on the same scale as internment, plural voting and the army shooting people when they complained about the general tulipness of the situation. It delegitimises the fookwitery of the human rights situation in the 60/70 and compares it to a trade agreement.

Wow, as ever you’ve jumped from one to another. I’ve not mentioned anything about internment, “vote early vote often”, churches being stormed and worshippers shot, etc.
I’m not an apologist for IRA, PIRA, INLA, UDA, UVF, etc.

I’m suggesting that peace has not lasted long enough in Ireland for some to have forgotten “The armalite and the ballot box” and that removing freedom from people rarely makes them happy.

What about YOU?

[Zigenare]

Wow, as ever you’ve jumped from one to another. I’ve not mentioned anything about internment, “vote early vote often”, churches being stormed and worshippers shot, etc.
I’m not an apologist for IRA, PIRA, INLA, UDA, UVF, etc.

I’m suggesting that peace has not lasted long enough in Ireland for some to have forgotten “The armalite and the ballot box” and that removing freedom from people rarely makes them happy.

What about YOU?

That I might have the right to wear the sash my father wore!

[Hobosapien]

Why people keep believing EU wants UK to stay for its couple of bn net contribution is beyond me...

So EU is going over all this sh** show so they don't lose 8bn contribution!? Really!?

The net contributor aspect is just a simple way of saying that the EU need countries to pour more into the project than other countries take out or the whole thing sinks. This covers aspects other than contributions, such as trade, employment, specialist skills and services.

The UK is one of the major economic forces in the EU so the impact of the UK leaving, even though trade will continue one way or another, will have an unpredictable effect on the long term future of the EU. That is why the rest of the EU want the UK to stay, to stop rocking the boat through uncertain waters as the USA and China continue to flex their superpower muscles and the EU tries to maintain enough size to combat trade wars and all the rest that goes on between such powers.

It makes much more sense for the UK to stay that major force within the EU and reap the established benefits, and continue to be a major guiding force in the future of the EU, than to isolate itself while the EU continues to evolve and rely on as yet unwritten trade deals with the USA and elsewhere. Trump cannot be trusted that is for sure. Maybe he'll be out of the White House before brexit is resolved.

[original PM]

Anyway you can just make your own polls up if you want.

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And still lose.

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[minestrone]

Wow, as ever you’ve jumped from one to another. I’ve not mentioned anything about internment, “vote early vote often”, churches being stormed and worshippers shot, etc.
I’m not an apologist for IRA, PIRA, INLA, UDA, UVF, etc.

I’m suggesting that peace has not lasted long enough in Ireland for some to have forgotten “The armalite and the ballot box” and that removing freedom from people rarely makes them happy.

What about YOU?

There will never be a return to the troubles.

I found your equivalence of Brexit to the real issues that were a problem in NI in the 60/70s questionable. As I said it delegitimises the real issues in the province at that time.

[minestrone]

That I might have the right to wear the sash my father wore!

I dont really have any issues with the OO, the white gloves are actually something I quite respect them for.

It's just that it doesn't work out that well round here. It's just one of these "not this tulip again" periods in the calendar.

[WTFH]

There will never be a return to the troubles.

I found your equivalence of Brexit to the real issues that were a problem in NI in the 60/70s questionable. As I said it delegitimises the real issues in the province at that time.

I didn't make any equivalence, you did.
I'm saying that if we have a hard brexit and no solution to the Irish Border then there are people who are going to see it as a major step back away from a united Ireland, a step back from an island where people are free to move and do as they please without a hard border and without border patrols.
Will they be joyously happy about that?

[minestrone]

I didn't make any equivalence, you did.
I'm saying that if we have a hard brexit and no solution to the Irish Border then there are people who are going to see it as a major step back away from a united Ireland, a step back from an island where people are free to move and do as they please without a hard border and without border patrols.
Will they be joyously happy about that?

Really, very few give a flying feck about a United Ireland in NI. Maybe like 5%. People just want to get on with life.

You have made claims about the troubles kicking off again over this. They won't. I find the suggestion laughable.