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What is worse hard brexit or Corbyn as PM?

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    What is worse hard brexit or Corbyn as PM?

    The combination of having both Corbyn as PM and a hard Brexit would be total collapse of the economy as the UK as we know it
    Trump wouldn't do a trade deal with a commie, hezbollah IRA supporter or would he, as Putin also supports and pays Corbyn and instructs him to give the Jezzer a good deal?
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    #2
    Originally posted by MasterBait View Post
    The combination of having both Corbyn as PM and a hard Brexit would be total collapse of the economy as the UK as we know it
    Trump wouldn't do a trade deal with a commie, hezbollah IRA supporter or would he, as Putin also supports and pays Corbyn and instructs him to give the Jezzer a good deal?
    More of a rant than an intellectual argument.
    "A people that elect corrupt politicians, imposters, thieves and traitors are not victims, but accomplices," George Orwell

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      #3
      Neither will happen.

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        #4
        Zero chance of Corbin becoming a PM. Coming GE the only pledge/issue that will matter will be Brexit. Labour still suffers from "split personality" on the matter, they are trying to appeal to everyone by not picking sides but the result is that instead they will not appeal no neither remainers, nor brexiteers and will only get their die hard/core votes.

        Tories under Boris, especially after last nights "purge" are decisively pro-Brexit, they will split the Brexiteer vote with the Brexit party

        SNP will cream everyone in Scotland, likely completely wiping the Tories off the map and winning any marginal seats from Labour with their pro-remain agenda

        Lib-dems will get the majority of the remain vote outside of Scotland.

        Number of seats is another matter and will largely depend on cooperation, but in terms of % of the vote the EU elections gave a good idea of what's to come.

        The Tories have some chances of attracting Brexit party votes with their latest agenda/rhetoric.

        Labour has zero chance of attracting neither remain votes from lib-dems/SNP, nor Brexit votes from Tory/Brexit party, unless they pick a side.

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          #5
          Originally posted by sal View Post
          Zero chance of Corbin becoming a PM. Coming GE the only pledge/issue that will matter will be Brexit. Labour still suffers from "split personality" on the matter, they are trying to appeal to everyone by not picking sides but the result is that instead they will not appeal no neither remainers, nor brexiteers and will only get their die hard/core votes.

          Tories under Boris, especially after last nights "purge" are decisively pro-Brexit, they will split the Brexiteer vote with the Brexit party

          SNP will cream everyone in Scotland, likely completely wiping the Tories off the map and winning any marginal seats from Labour with their pro-remain agenda

          Lib-dems will get the majority of the remain vote outside of Scotland.

          Number of seats is another matter and will largely depend on cooperation, but in terms of % of the vote the EU elections gave a good idea of what's to come.

          The Tories have some chances of attracting Brexit party votes with their latest agenda/rhetoric.

          Labour has zero chance of attracting neither remain votes from lib-dems/SNP, nor Brexit votes from Tory/Brexit party, unless they pick a side.
          Mostly I agree with you, but Labour picked a side: if leaving never with no deal, and that can attract some electorate...
          "The boy who cried Sheep"

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            #6
            Originally posted by CryingSheep View Post
            Mostly I agree with you, but Labour picked a side: if leaving never with no deal, and that can attract some electorate...
            Should attract a few LibDem voters.

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              #7
              Originally posted by BrilloPad View Post
              Should attract a few LibDem voters.
              Agree... I also think that Lib Dems and Labour will mainly get votes from each other
              "The boy who cried Sheep"

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                #8
                Originally posted by CryingSheep View Post
                Agree... I also think that Lib Dems and Labour will mainly get votes from each other
                Whats your take on Tory/Brexit then? IMO At the moment Tories look like Brexit party - as much as Farage would say otherwise(he is so full of it).

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                  #9
                  Originally posted by CryingSheep View Post
                  Mostly I agree with you, but Labour picked a side: if leaving never with no deal, and that can attract some electorate...
                  Originally posted by CryingSheep View Post
                  Agree... I also think that Lib Dems and Labour will mainly get votes from each other
                  All the historic "allegiance" is up in the air. Bar the core electorate for each party the only think that will matter in the next GE is Brexit and all party historically have both leave and remain voters to various extent. With small exceptions:

                  No Brexit voter will vote Lib-dem

                  No Remain voter will vote Tory/Brexit party

                  No traditional Tory voter will vote Labour - it will be Lib-dem/Brexit party based on stance on Brexit

                  No traditional Labour voter will vote Tory - it will be Lib-dem/Brexit party based on stance on Brexit

                  Which leaves the Labour with a subsection of their traditional voters that don't feel strongly pro/against Brexit and some traditional Lib-dems who are pro-Brexit. I don't believe there are many of the latter out there.

                  Labour will have a massive drain of pro-remain voters to Lib-dem/SNP and small gain of pro-deal leave voters from various sources. They have no major source of additional voters, compared to the last elections to hope for a majority.

                  Bottom line is either way lib-dem are in for a major gain in seats and after the 2010 coalition fiasco I highly doubt they will enter into another coalition as a minority partner. So it will either be a hung parliament or a minority government on some sort of lib-dem/SNP/?? coalition

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                    #10
                    Originally posted by CryingSheep View Post
                    Agree... I also think that Lib Dems and Labour will mainly get votes from each other
                    Incorrect. Lib Dems are now the default party for centrist Tories. Not through choice mind you, there just isn't anyone else.
                    And from some of their results recently, they may be attracting support from some voters you really wouldn't expect them to attract.
                    Hard Brexit now!
                    #prayfornodeal

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