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    #11
    Germany Plus

    Originally posted by DimPrawn View Post
    If Germany and France want an EU army or for Turkey to join the EU or whatever, do you think WE could stop them by being in the EU?
    Yes. And what is also certain, is that we cannot stop them by being outside the EU.

    That is, if we wanted to stop them. The U.K. was, after all, Turkey’s biggest fan in their application.

    HTH.

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      #12
      Germany and the French can make their own plans as to their security.

      It's no longer our concern.

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        #13
        Originally posted by DimPrawn View Post
        You didn't really answer my question, which is, if Germany and France want X, and we want Y, do you think the EU as a whole, will get X, or Y?
        The EU as a whole will get X, Y, or perhaps Z, depending on what the entire EU28 lobby, promote, and negotiate for.

        Diplomacy used to be a U.K. strength, now it seems like whining and foot-stamping is more popular.

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          #14
          Originally posted by minestrone View Post
          Germany and the French can make their own plans as to their security.

          It's no longer our concern.
          Why not?

          Aren’t we Global Britain? Part of Europe, just not part of the EU?

          Why wouldn’t global and regional security be any of our concern?

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            #15
            Originally posted by meridian View Post
            Diplomacy used to be a U.K. strength, now it seems like whining and foot-stamping is more popular.
            It certainly does if your default position favours Remain.

            “The period of the disintegration of the European Union has begun. And the first vessel to have departed is Britain”

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              #16
              Originally posted by meridian View Post
              Diplomacy used to be a U.K. strength, now it seems like whining and foot-stamping is more popular.
              Originally posted by shaunbhoy View Post
              There, there little boy .... I'm sure your mommy will be along soon to hold your hand and take you home
              I am what I drink, and I'm a bitter man

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                #17
                Originally posted by meridian View Post
                Why not?

                Aren’t we Global Britain? Part of Europe, just not part of the EU?

                Why wouldn’t global and regional security be any of our concern?
                The UK is one of the few nations that can nuke any city on any continent.

                I dont think we are losing much leaving the EU.

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                  #18
                  Germany Plus

                  Originally posted by minestrone View Post
                  The UK is one of the few nations that can nuke any city on any continent.

                  I dont think we are losing much leaving the EU.
                  That doesn’t answer the question.

                  Why wouldn’t global or regional security be our concern?

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                    #19
                    Originally posted by minestrone View Post
                    The UK is one of the few nations that can nuke any city on any continent.

                    I dont think we are losing much leaving the EU.
                    And, rightly, we would never be allowed to use them as it would end in the final hours of the UK and most human life on Earth.
                    I am what I drink, and I'm a bitter man

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                      #20
                      Originally posted by Whorty View Post
                      And, rightly, we would never be allowed to use them as it would end in the final hours of the UK and most human life on Earth.
                      Nuclear powers don't get invaded.

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