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Brexit: 'Very real' chance of Irish unity poll if no deal

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    #51
    Originally posted by stonehenge View Post
    On the other hand, a united Ireland would solve the backstop issue.
    Hope the take Scotland with them.
    "Never argue with stupid people, they will drag you down to their level and beat you with experience". Mark Twain

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      #52
      Originally posted by Mordac View Post
      And it would bankrupt Ireland.
      Ireland are doing 3 x better than the UK at the moment.
      Last edited by Batcher; 11 February 2019, 13:05.

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        #53
        Originally posted by Batcher View Post
        Ireland are doing 3 x better than the UK at the moment.
        There is no single unit of 'doing well'

        There is GDP, unemployment, balance of trade, other indicators, the direction of travel for each of these.

        On some of these the UK is doing better and on some Ireland is doing better. It's worth shaping your viewers around reality, rather than the other way round.

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          #54
          Originally posted by Old Greg View Post
          There is no single unit of 'doing well'

          There is GDP, unemployment, balance of trade, other indicators, the direction of travel for each of these.

          On some of these the UK is doing better and on some Ireland is doing better. It's worth shaping your viewers around reality, rather than the other way round.
          If the UK does not come to some sort of decision soon, the UK is totally stuffed. I don't care if it is remain or stay. The "TM" deal is no deal - it just kicks the can down the road.

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            #55
            Originally posted by GreenMirror View Post
            If the UK does not come to some sort of decision soon, the UK is totally stuffed. I don't care if it is remain or stay. The "TM" deal is no deal - it just kicks the can down the road.
            Deal or No Deal, the real can was always being kicked down the road - what sort of trading relationship does the UK want with the EU in the future?

            All of the arguing so far is mainly about a Withdrawal Agreement that at least gives us a transition period to figure out what we want - EFTA, Canada, etc. The real argument is only just about to start....

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              #56
              Originally posted by meridian View Post
              All of the arguing so far is mainly about a Withdrawal Agreement that at least gives us a transition period to figure out what we want - EFTA, Canada, etc. The real argument is only just about to start....
              I suspect a lot of people don't realise that. It doesn't help that the WA keep getting referred to as "deal".

              The real deal is probably going to be even more tortuous than the WA.

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                #57
                Originally posted by stonehenge View Post
                The real deal is probably going to be even more tortuous than the WA.
                What happens at the moment will be seen as nice walk in the park because by the time proper deal is negotiated EU will make a few rule changes that UK was blocking all these decades.

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                  #58
                  Originally posted by GreenMirror View Post
                  If the UK does not come to some sort of decision soon, the UK is totally stuffed
                  You voted for it, well done.

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                    #59
                    Originally posted by stonehenge View Post
                    I suspect a lot of people don't realise that. It doesn't help that the WA keep getting referred to as "deal".

                    The real deal is probably going to be even more tortuous than the WA.
                    Hence the backstop. The EU don't trust us to negotiate in good faith, so they are putting an insurance policy in place to protect themselves
                    I am what I drink, and I'm a bitter man

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                      #60
                      Originally posted by Whorty View Post
                      Hence the backstop. The EU don't trust us to negotiate in good faith, so they are putting an insurance policy in place to protect themselves
                      The eurosceptic lot know that they're unlikely to get a deal they can accept, hence why they want rid of the backstop.

                      It's funny how, during the referendum, a lot of them said it would be the easiest deal ever but, if that was the case, why would they care about the backstop?

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