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    #61
    Originally posted by meridian View Post
    You're changing your criteria now into a subjective one of "quality", rather than a factual one of "are they electable".

    Presumably this is because your statement of them being unelectable is easily proven wrong (they were elected both by their countries, and by the heads of 27 governments).

    What you "think" (doubtful if you can't even Google basic facts) is irrelevant.
    Given their track-records, imo they'd be considered un-electable by anyone except the EU. And just to correct you, we didn't vote for Juncker, and Poland didn't vote for Tusk. My original statement was entirely subjective, as are most statements on here.
    His heart is in the right place - shame we can't say the same about his brain...

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      #62
      Originally posted by Mordac View Post
      One of them is the former PM of a country the size of Sheffield, .
      So why do you brexiteers hold on to Gibraltar if small countries don't count

      and the other couldn't even get his own country into the Euro when he was PM, and is less popular there than Putin.
      This is total BS. You have no idea how hated Putin is in Poland and wouldn't getting into the Euro be a badge of honour in the eyes of you gammons?

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        #63
        Originally posted by Yorkie62 View Post
        Says the remainer who based all evidence on why Brexit is so bad on 2nd guesses, someone else's opinion, crystal ball predictions, etc.

        Cracking. You couldn't make this stuff up
        You're free to point out anywhere that I have made factual errors, as we are all free to point that out where others make them.

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          #64
          [QUOTE=Eirikur;2621347]So why do you brexiteers hold on to Gibraltar if small countries don't count

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          Gibraltar isn't a country. It's a UK overseas territory. And it really winds the Spanish up that it has a Union Jack flying over it.

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            #65
            Originally posted by Eirikur View Post
            So why do you brexiteers hold on to Gibraltar if small countries don't count



            This is total BS. You have no idea how hated Putin is in Poland and wouldn't getting into the Euro be a badge of honour in the eyes of you gammons?
            Gibraltar isn't a country, it's a British Overseas Territory. The answer to your question lies in the word "British".
            Putin is indeed hated in Poland, but Tusk is hated more. I don't understand the second part of that sentence. Is it something to do with the price of ham joints?
            His heart is in the right place - shame we can't say the same about his brain...

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              #66
              Originally posted by meridian View Post
              You're free to point out anywhere that I have made factual errors, as we are all free to point that out where others make them.
              The old Freedom of Speech defence fallback. Have you though about applying for the current vacancy at facebook.

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                #67
                Originally posted by Mordac View Post
                Gibraltar isn't a country, it's a British Overseas Territory. The answer to your question lies in the word "British".
                Putin is indeed hated in Poland, but Tusk is hated more. I don't understand the second part of that sentence. Is it something to do with the price of ham joints?
                The term 'country' is arguable and does not necessarily refer to a sovereign state. Consider usage for country of origin and other country codes. Also consider England as a constituent country of the UK.

                'Territory' is more accurate but it would be hard to demonstrate that country is 'incorrect'.

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                  #68
                  Originally posted by Old Greg View Post
                  The term 'country' is arguable and does not necessarily refer to a sovereign state. Consider usage for country of origin and other country codes. Also consider England as a constituent country of the UK.

                  'Territory' is more accurate but it would be hard to demonstrate that country is 'incorrect'.
                  Easy to demonstrate that the use of the word COUNTRY is incorrect. Does the UN recognise it as a separate country? Does SPAIN recognise it as a country in its own right?

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                    #69
                    Originally posted by Yorkie62 View Post
                    Easy to demonstrate that the use of the word COUNTRY is incorrect. Does the UN recognise it as a separate country? Does SPAIN recognise it as a country in its own right?
                    You are confusing country with sovereign state. Easy mistake to make, but now you know better, so let's move on.

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                      #70
                      Originally posted by Yorkie62 View Post
                      Easy to demonstrate that the use of the word COUNTRY is incorrect. Does the UN recognise it as a separate country? Does SPAIN recognise it as a country in its own right?
                      Does the UN recognise England Scotland or Wales as nations? No. Yet we still call them countries or nations.
                      They also all have their own football team just like Gib.

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