Well done that man!

[sasguru]

Ministerial Resignation Statement - Dr Phillip Lee MP - Caring for Bracknell Constituency

[Zigenare]

The outcome that is emerging will be neither fully to leave the EU, nor fully to stay. This is not an outcome for which anyone knowingly voted. In my view, this raises the important principle of legitimacy: I do not believe it would be right for the Government to pursue such a course without a plan to seek a confirmatory mandate for the outcome. And I believe that Parliament should have the power to ask the Government to adjust its course in the best interests of the people whom its Members represent.

The man could have a point.

Ministerial Resignation Statement - Dr Phillip Lee MP - Caring for Bracknell Constituency

You however, as always, are pointless!

[darmstadt]

Bracknell voted Leave didn't it? This then brings up that old chestnut, do you respect the wishes of your constituents, the country, your party or your beliefs?

[sasguru]

The man could have a point.



You however, as always, are pointless!

Thanks for your reply to my point.

[darmstadt]

[Paddy]

Bracknell voted Leave didn't it? This then brings up that old chestnut, do you respect the wishes of your constituents, the country, your party or your beliefs?

No, they voted remain

[sasguru]

This then brings up that old chestnut, do you respect the wishes of your constituents, the country, your party or your beliefs?

Actually the duty of any MP is well-defined:

'Your representative owes you, not his industry only, but his judgment; and he betrays, instead of serving you, if he sacrifices it to your opinion … Parliament is not a congress of ambassadors from different and hostile interests, which interests each must maintain, as an agent and advocate, against other agents and advocates; but parliament is a deliberative assembly of one nation, with one interest, that of the whole; where, not local purposes, not local prejudices ought to guide, but the general good, resulting from the general reason of the whole. You choose a member indeed; but when you have chosen him, he is not member of Bristol, but he is a member of parliament.' Edmund Burke's Speech to the Electors of Bristol, 3 Nov. 1774.

'The first duty of a member of Parliament is to do what he thinks in his faithful and disinterested judgement is right and necessary for the honour and safety of Great Britain. His second duty is to his constituents, of whom he is the representative but not the delegate. Burke's famous declaration on this subject is well known. It is only in the third place that his duty to party organization or programme takes rank. All these three loyalties should be observed, but there in no doubt of the order in which they stand under any healthy manifestation of democracy.' Sir Winston Churchill on the Duties of a Member of Parliament.[4]

[darmstadt]

No, they voted remain

https://www.getreading.co.uk/news/re...leave-11516886

Bracknell votes LEAVE

Votes for Remain were: 29,888

Votes for Leave were: 35,002

The turnout was: 76.1 per cent

[sasguru]

"'The first duty of a member of Parliament is to do what he thinks in his faithful and disinterested judgement is right and necessary for the honour and safety of Great Britain. His second duty is to his constituents, of whom he is the representative but not the delegate. Burke's famous declaration on this subject is well known. It is only in the third place that his duty to party organization or programme takes rank. All these three loyalties should be observed, but there in no doubt of the order in which they stand under any healthy manifestation of democracy.' Sir Winston Churchill on the Duties of a Member of Parliament.[4]"

According to the above, in the UK's parliamentary democracy, if every MP voted as he/she believed, Brexit would not happen, since there's a majority against Brexit.
However apparently the mob has to be appeased, and so it will come to pass that the UK is irreparably damaged (to what extent remains to be seen) until such time as a more sensible generation (if such will come to pass) arises.

[Old Greg]

Actually the duty of any MP is well-defined:

'Your representative owes you, not his industry only, but his judgment; and he betrays, instead of serving you, if he sacrifices it to your opinion … Parliament is not a congress of ambassadors from different and hostile interests, which interests each must maintain, as an agent and advocate, against other agents and advocates; but parliament is a deliberative assembly of one nation, with one interest, that of the whole; where, not local purposes, not local prejudices ought to guide, but the general good, resulting from the general reason of the whole. You choose a member indeed; but when you have chosen him, he is not member of Bristol, but he is a member of parliament.' Edmund Burke's Speech to the Electors of Bristol, 3 Nov. 1774.

'The first duty of a member of Parliament is to do what he thinks in his faithful and disinterested judgement is right and necessary for the honour and safety of Great Britain. His second duty is to his constituents, of whom he is the representative but not the delegate. Burke's famous declaration on this subject is well known. It is only in the third place that his duty to party organization or programme takes rank. All these three loyalties should be observed, but there in no doubt of the order in which they stand under any healthy manifestation of democracy.' Sir Winston Churchill on the Duties of a Member of Parliament.[4]

These are descriptions of representative democracy, but they are open to challenge. In 1774, the MP would go to Westminster for a parliamentary session with no opportunity to consult with constituents. So they had to be trusted to represent constituents' interests. Things have changed since then.