Wording of contract

[Craig at Nixon Williams]

I'm rather surprised none of the big contractor accountancy firms has launched their own IR35 service - a proper one with legal experts hired I mean. You'd think the likes of SJD/NW have enough customers to make this worthwhile; heck they could even have it underwritten by QDos and get a discount for the large volume of customers they can bring.

A few of us at NW have received the PCG accredited accountant training and are able to carry out a contract review, but the existing specialists in this area already have a great reputation and can offer it at a much lower price than we could as new entrants to the market. We’d rather stick to what we’re good at and leave the contract reviews to those who are good at reviewing contracts.

Craig

[Kate Cottrell]

I'm rather surprised none of the big contractor accountancy firms has launched their own IR35 service - a proper one with legal experts hired I mean. You'd think the likes of SJD/NW have enough customers to make this worthwhile; heck they could even have it underwritten by QDos and get a discount for the large volume of customers they can bring.

I think you will find that the reason that this has not happened is the very important Managed Service Company rules.

Kate Cottrell

[v8gaz]

Join PCG, use the contract template, job done.

[Wanderer]

Join PCG, use the contract template, job done.

Then the agency tells the contractor to bugger off, they are using the standard tulipty agency contract, take it or leave it...

[Clare@InTouch]

Join PCG, use the contract template, job done.

If you're working conditions don't match though that won't help in an investigation. The PCG contract is great, but it has to be true.

[psychocandy]

A few of us at NW have received the PCG accredited accountant training and are able to carry out a contract review, but the existing specialists in this area already have a great reputation and can offer it at a much lower price than we could as new entrants to the market. We’d rather stick to what we’re good at and leave the contract reviews to those who are good at reviewing contracts.

Craig

Hmmm. PCG accredited accountant training. Not sure about that one.
I'm with NW and they are, as I've said many times, excellent beyond belief. Really are.

Before NW I had a local accountant who was useless beyond belief. He was PCG accredited too. Quite how he managed to get that I'll never know (unless he was lying) because the guy was completely clueless.

Point being I'd much rather a good accountant who knows how to deal with contractors than someone who claims to be PCG accredited.

(I try to comment to PCG afterwards but they weren't interested to be honest unless he'd been specifically negligent. Bit disappointed that they are happy to list people but dont care if they're crap or not).

[Craig at Nixon Williams]

Hmmm. PCG accredited accountant training. Not sure about that one.
I'm with NW and they are, as I've said many times, excellent beyond belief. Really are.

Before NW I had a local accountant who was useless beyond belief. He was PCG accredited too. Quite how he managed to get that I'll never know (unless he was lying) because the guy was completely clueless.

Point being I'd much rather a good accountant who knows how to deal with contractors than someone who claims to be PCG accredited.

(I try to comment to PCG afterwards but they weren't interested to be honest unless he'd been specifically negligent. Bit disappointed that they are happy to list people but dont care if they're crap or not).

The PCG training is a good course, great for learning about some of the case law that has affected contractors over the years, but not something that is particularly useful on a day-to-day basis. Qualifications just mean that you can pass exams – they don’t say how good you are at doing something after you have the qualification! You could have an accountant that has all sorts of accreditations on their website but I’d say that’s useless if you can’t explain something in plain English!