24 Month Rule

[northernladuk]

It seems to be assumed by the rule-makers that not only is 2 years enough time to re-locate but that you will subsequently be in some kind of secure employment. Do they honestly expect you to relocate to be closer to (your now permie) place of work on the strength of a 3 month contract ?

Remember this rule was designed to give us tax free subsistence as already mentioned. It was to ease the burden of relocating in which case 2 years is more than adequate. It was designed for us and we exploit it just like many other rules hence it doesn't make sense to us. You just have to realise that and get on with it.

It gets better......

Since March, I have landed a contract in my home city, 5 miles away from my house. It’s also the first time I haven’t had to stay away from home since 2001. According to the hard and fast definition of a temporary workplace being “somewhere you do not know you are going to be working for a period of 2 years” then I am currently at a temporary workplace and so can now claim expenses (lunches) and mileage. Obviously this wouldn't be much, and I wouldn't dream of trying to claim accommodation for living in my own home either.

I appreciate that this scenario may be rare, but how ridiculous is that ?

Why is that ridiculous?

I think the problem her is you want the rule to fit your situation and because it doesn't you don't like it. It is a pretty clear rule, it's been in place long enough. It's hardly unfair or strange.

[ribble]

In reverse order...

5) ribble

4) ChrisPackit

3) DeludedAussie

2) backslashed

1) proggy

So where is this list derived from then? Is it official or is it a subjective list based on those who don't agree with Mr High and Mighty himself?

(Again very professional)

[LisaContractorUmbrella]

I am so tempted to say that it's the official CUK list but I know that Cojak would and possibly so I won't

[SueEllen]

I am so tempted to say that it's the official CUK list but I know that Cojak would and possibly so I won't

It is the official CUK list you don't need to lie.

[ribble]

It is the official CUK list you don't need to lie.

If it is then – why am I on this list? I'm not horrible, abusive or do I moan lots. I've simply asked for some views and didn't appreciate the nature of NLUK's response - something which as an avid follower of this forum is something I don’t think I’m alone in.

[northernladuk]

If it is then – why am I on this list? I'm not horrible, abusive or do I moan lots. I've simply asked for some views and didn't appreciate the nature of NLUK's response - something which as an avid follower of this forum is something I don’t think I’m alone in.

Unfortunately being a new poster I think it only takes a couple of the big guys to neg rep to get you to rock bottom. Most of the other longer term posters have some pos rep to offset it. I think many new guys hit the bottom and then climb back up over time. Pos rep, I believe, is worth more than neg so easy to fix.

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I do have my fair share of neg rep because of my attitude quite obviously but ce la vie. It's a public board, you have to take the rough with the smooth, it's free advice. Complaining about people trying to help even if it is not what you want to hear isn't always the best way forward. My advice/opinion on mentioning 24 month rule to you client when asking for a rise for example. You had a go at me about that. We have had this question a number of times and my response was based on the replies to those threads and the general consensus was it is unprofessional to expect your client to give you a rate rise based on your personal tax issues. It isn't for them to cover it off, yet you snapped at me rather unfairly. Nearly made me

Anyway, all this is off topic... How did your negotiation with your client go? Got the rate rise?

EDIT : BTW did you check my sig??

[ribble]

Unfortunately being a new poster I think it only takes a couple of the big guys to neg rep to get you to rock bottom. Most of the other longer term posters have some pos rep to offset it. I think many new guys hit the bottom and then climb back up over time. Pos rep, I believe, is worth more than neg so easy to fix.

Member List - Contractor UK Bulletin Board

I do have my fair share of neg rep because of my attitude quite obviously but ce la vie. It's a public board, you have to take the rough with the smooth, it's free advice. Complaining about people trying to help even if it is not what you want to hear isn't always the best way forward. My advice/opinion on mentioning 24 month rule to you client when asking for a rise for example. You had a go at me about that. We have had this question a number of times and my response was based on the replies to those threads and the general consensus was it is unprofessional to expect your client to give you a rate rise based on your personal tax issues. It isn't for them to cover it off, yet you snapped at me rather unfairly. Nearly made me

Anyway, all this is off topic... How did your negotiation with your client go? Got the rate rise?

EDIT : BTW did you check my sig??

Yeah I got the rise in the sense they have now agreed to cover my expenses up to £1800. I did discuss the reasoning around going somewhere else to work other than London though - in professional way of course and they asked how they could work with me to retain my services. Hopefully this approach won't open another can of worms - something I'm looking into now.

Regarding rep - how the hell am I an agent in disguise?

[LisaContractorUmbrella]

Yeah I got the rise in the sense they have now agreed to cover my expenses up to £1800. I did discuss the reasoning around going somewhere else to work other than London though - in professional way of course and they asked how they could work with me to retain my services. Hopefully this approach won't open another can of worms - something I'm looking into now.

Regarding rep - how the hell am I an agent in disguise?

Good result Have repped you to make up for the emotional trauma provided by NLUK. He doesn't mean it - pussy cat really bless him

[northernladuk]

Good result Have repped you to make up for the emotional trauma provided by NLUK. He doesn't mean it - pussy cat really bless him

See what you have done.. You +ve repped him and he isn't happy with it. Maybe I should make amends....

[northernladuk]

Yeah I got the rise in the sense they have now agreed to cover my expenses up to £1800. I did discuss the reasoning around going somewhere else to work other than London though - in professional way of course and they asked how they could work with me to retain my services. Hopefully this approach won't open another can of worms - something I'm looking into now.

I would make a suggestion and my view on a comment like that from a client but I daren't.

Regarding rep - how the hell am I an agent in disguise?

Best thing to do is to start a post in General asking why