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What to do when offer has been made and acccepted, then agent backtracks.

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    #11
    Originally posted by moggy View Post
    Well yes guessing, making up no, thats why i said "could" to ensure this is the sort of thing they should be looking for. Who's to say whats in the t's and c's
    You can't start plucking crap out of the air and start guessing like that. That is use to no one.
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      #12
      Originally posted by psychocandy View Post
      Not worth stressing about - like NLUK said it happens so just move on and get another contract.

      If it was me though, I'd try to get the notice period out of the agency. Never know and it'd be a good laugh anyway.

      I'm not an expert but legally though couldn't they say they gave you notice but then there was no work (MOO etc) so you wont get paid anyway?

      Would still have a quick crack at it though...
      MoO doesn't cover work in the contract I have found out. Not getting paid because you haven't done work isn't MoO. I had this wrong all along and incognito put me right in a great post. I really need to go find that and keep it.
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        #13
        Originally posted by northernladuk View Post
        You can't start plucking crap out of the air and start guessing like that. That is use to no one.
        I think that particular posters username may offer some insight....
        Still Invoicing

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          #14
          Originally posted by northernladuk View Post
          You can't start plucking crap out of the air and start guessing like that. That is use to no one.
          Personally i don't think it is "crap", its a simple clause an agent could easily have written into a contract that would cover them if roles didn't actually start. Much the same as terms of notice in the first few weeks or prior to contract comencing i.e. immediate.

          Now i'm not sayings its there obviously, but would help to look for it or something similar if the OP is in fact thinking he has a case.

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            #15
            Originally posted by moggy View Post
            Personally i don't think it is "crap", its a simple clause an agent could easily have written into a contract that would cover them if roles didn't actually start. Much the same as terms of notice in the first few weeks or prior to contract comencing i.e. immediate.

            Now i'm not sayings its there obviously, but would help to look for it or something similar if the OP is in fact thinking he has a case.
            Ughhh, not Kittycat surely? That says it all.. Feel free to make up any old stuff and suggest it is in the client contract. The dafter the better, but it is gonna have to be a good one to beat that.
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              #16
              Originally posted by northernladuk View Post
              MoO doesn't cover work in the contract I have found out. Not getting paid because you haven't done work isn't MoO. I had this wrong all along and incognito put me right in a great post. I really need to go find that and keep it.
              This one, I think you mean.

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                #17
                Originally posted by northernladuk View Post
                Ughhh, not Kittycat surely? That says it all.. Feel free to make up any old stuff and suggest it is in the client contract. The dafter the better, but it is gonna have to be a good one to beat that.
                I think I must of missed the free drinks and drugs that seemed to be handed out this morning..

                Are you seriously saying that you haven't read daft clauses in contracts? I am pretty sure I have seen something similar over the years, and worse still if I really give it some time.

                Remember as much as you attempt to train half the board into "being in business" it won't work, and they will be just signing away without even reading t's and c's. (and OP that wasn't directed at you before i find out someone else forgot to go to their anger management class)

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                  #18
                  Maybe they have a clause in the client contract that doesn't allow standing on reception dressed as Charlie Chaplin, doing keepie uppies with a balloon and reciting hamlet as well. You better watch that one.
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                    #19
                    Originally posted by northernladuk View Post
                    Maybe they have a clause in the client contract that doesn't allow standing on reception dressed as Charlie Chaplin, doing keepie uppies with a balloon and reciting hamlet as well. You better watch that one.
                    That would come under "professional behaviour".

                    Some contracts have such clauses because that's away a client can get rid of you under a claim for misconduct.

                    Back to the Moggy's point - if no contracts have been sent out let alone signed then JumperG is in a weak position. The agent could simply argue that it's customary to have a signed contract in this business and the verbal agreements and emails are just part of the negotiating process.

                    I've had a few agents who refused to let me go on site if the contract wasn't agreed and signed before hand.
                    "You’re just a bad memory who doesn’t know when to go away" JR

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                      #20
                      Originally posted by SueEllen View Post
                      That would come under "professional behaviour".

                      Some contracts have such clauses because that's away a client can get rid of you under a claim for misconduct.
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