IR35 Business Entity Test

[amcdonald]

Think about it again..... particularly around what you are to your company already.

Whilst directors are a special case, you can still have a contract of employment with your company

[rd409]

So, I can pair up with another contractor with similar skill set, and occasionally swap clients for a day or so during each contract. This will sort both of us, I guess

[LisaContractorUmbrella]

So, I can pair up with another contractor with similar skill set, and occasionally swap clients for a day or so during each contract. This will sort both of us, I guess

Please let that be tongue in cheek

[rd409]

Please let that be tongue in cheek

Seriously? I am sure, substitution does not need to have any reasons behind it. I believe, I can send in a replacement on any day for any reasons, as long as I pay from my pocket.

[LisaContractorUmbrella]

Seriously? I am sure, substitution does not need to have any reasons behind it. I believe, I can send in a replacement on any day for any reasons, as long as I pay from my pocket.

But that alone would not put you outside IR35 - having an arrangement with a mate whereby you do his job for a day and he does yours is not really acting like a business

[Notascooby]

But that alone would not put you outside IR35 - having an arrangement with a mate whereby you do his job for a day and he does yours is not really acting like a business

This is more a tick box passing exercise - if this was used to determine whether or not to investigate a company for IR35 then why not do something that is not exactly business like but would allow you to truthfully answer this is a positive light.

Think I might have to buy some company branded wheels for my commute to work to tick the £1200 advertising box too - That's +22 already - easy-peasy

[northernladuk]

Sometimes I think the biggest problem is not HMRC and IR35... it's us...

A vast majority will just see these quick fixes without understand what HMRC are trying to get at so furthering HMRC's belief we are an easy target... and we are just giving it to them on a plate

If they are investigating our procedures to try and prove we fudge them to our benefit, providing another fudge isn't going help our case is it.

They are trying to determine if we are a business and think like a business and all we can do is suggest how to exploit loop holes... That is a fail then.

[LisaContractorUmbrella]

Sometimes I think the biggest problem is not HMRC and IR35... it's us...

A vast majority will just see these quick fixes without understand what HMRC are trying to get at so furthering HMRC's belief we are an easy target... and we are just giving it to them on a plate

If they are investigating our procedures to try and prove we fudge them to our benefit, providing another fudge isn't going help our case is it.

They are trying to determine if we are a business and think like a business and all we can do is suggest how to exploit loop holes... That is a fail then.

[Contreras]

But that alone would not put you outside IR35 - having an arrangement with a mate whereby you do his job for a day and he does yours is not really acting like a business

Well it's definitely NOT acting like an employee.

And that's the whole point, isn't it?

[Old Greg]

Real businesses don't worry about IR35. Ergo if you do you are inside.