No To Retro Tax – Campaign Against Section 58 Finance Act 2008

[Cosmo]

Yes - cue a judicial review

Not sure that will even be possible.

The notes issued today don't mention any kind of right of appeal with the accelerated payment notices.

I guess it is something that will be detailed when the legislation is published.

One thing is for sure. That whole consultation process was a monumental waste of time. They have taken none of the comments that any of the Institutes and Professional Bodies made, on board.

[OneUnited]

Oops!!

Grant Thornton - The 6th largest Accountancy firm in the world!

Silly me!!!!!

Still never heard of them though

[PlaneSailing]

Maybe being a bit stupid but who is Grant Thornton?

DR are we any further forward with the Adjudicator, the only small hope I have left

Here's Grant Thornton's response to the 'consultation'.

ICAEW's response is similar, as is the CIOT's.

Not sure why Gauke asked for input if he was just going to ignore it and stick (more) money in the pocket's of the legal profession.

http://www.grant-thornton.co.uk/Docu...c_response.pdf

[PlaneSailing]

Not sure that will even be possible.

The notes issued today don't mention any kind of right of appeal with the accelerated payment notices.

I guess it is something that will be detailed when the legislation is published.

One thing is for sure. That whole consultation process was a monumental waste of time. They have taken none of the comments that any of the Institutes and Professional Bodies made, on board.

The very fact there is no means of appeal is part of the problem. I really hope it doesn't go to court and sense is seen, but I don't see that happening.

[OneUnited]

Not sure that will even be possible.

The notes issued today don't mention any kind of right of appeal with the accelerated payment notices.

I guess it is something that will be detailed when the legislation is published.

One thing is for sure. That whole consultation process was a monumental waste of time. They have taken none of the comments that any of the Institutes and Professional Bodies made, on board.

extracted from https://www.gov.uk/government/upload...DOTAS_GAAR.pdf

Operational impact (£m) (HMRC or other)
This measure and the Autumn Statement 2013 follower measure will require Payment Notices to be issued to around 43,000 taxpayers involved in avoidance schemes currently under dispute with HMRC. The vast majority of notices are expected to be issued over the course of 2014-15 and 2015-16.
These measures are expected to prompt a range of different legal challenges including judicial review proceedings, an increase in closure applications to the Tribunal and disputed enforcement activity. Flexible legal resource options are being considered to meet the expected demands of this work. This legal resource will be increased and adapted depending on the scale and scope of any legal challenges.
The Government will ensure that Departments have the necessary resources to deliver this key policy successfully.

[Cosmo]

extracted from https://www.gov.uk/government/upload...DOTAS_GAAR.pdf

Operational impact (£m) (HMRC or other)
This measure and the Autumn Statement 2013 follower measure will require Payment Notices to be issued to around 43,000 taxpayers involved in avoidance schemes currently under dispute with HMRC. The vast majority of notices are expected to be issued over the course of 2014-15 and 2015-16.
These measures are expected to prompt a range of different legal challenges including judicial review proceedings, an increase in closure applications to the Tribunal and disputed enforcement activity. Flexible legal resource options are being considered to meet the expected demands of this work. This legal resource will be increased and adapted depending on the scale and scope of any legal challenges.
The Government will ensure that Departments have the necessary resources to deliver this key policy successfully.

Thank you.

I didn't spot that.

[jbryce]

Here's Grant Thornton's response to the 'consultation'.

ICAEW's response is similar, as is the CIOT's.

Not sure why Gauke asked for input if he was just going to ignore it and stick (more) money in the pocket's of the legal profession.

http://www.grant-thornton.co.uk/Docu...c_response.pdf

Is there any way of finding out how the responses were treated? It does make a mockery of the whole consultative process.

[PlaneSailing]

Is there any way of finding out how the responses were treated? It does make a mockery of the whole consultative process.

Mockery is correct.

[OnYourBikeGB]

Mockery is correct.

Completely agree. I haven't had the 'pleasure' if following this live, but it looks like he has tried to pass off the consultancy as being positive! Just another deceit. I just hope that this will cause a backlash and the judiciary will feel a need to redress the balance. That and the adjudicator look like our best hopes. SO reactivated for NTRT. Keep up the fight.

[smalldog]

talking of which whats the adjudicator next steps? yes I think they were just paying lip service to a "consultation".