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Originally posted by screwthis View PostBut they DID do a deal and presumably there is evidence of this that can be shown in court.
Also presume his circumstances were not in fact that unique as we are presenting the argument as applicable to the wider group.
They will just claim they settled based on the facts of the individual case.
There was nothing particularly unusual or unique about George's circumstances.Comment
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no - im over 100k and got the letter so bang goes that theory ...PLUS i (as you all know by now) got told i get the APN in up to 4 weeks not 8,
Gogin on holiday next week so whats the betting it turns up whilst im away
Originally posted by warlord View PostMy APN liability is aprox 49k. I have had the pre-apn letter.
I was with MTM.Comment
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Greater than 75%
Greater than 75% is the highest % a barrister will ever give. Even if they think it's a virtual dead cert.
In our case, the barrister we've used is an FTT Judge so this gives even more confidence. You can find her past cases by selecting Judge - "Redston, Anne Redston" here:
The Finance & Tax Tribunal
So why would anyone want to settle if the odds are so good?
Because there's always a risk, no matter how small, that a tribunal won't see it the same way. And the outcome is binary, win or lose, all or nothing. Also, even if you win, HMRC will probably appeal. It could drag on for years.Last edited by DonkeyRhubarb; 4 March 2015, 11:06.Comment
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Originally posted by helen7 View PostI got mine at the weekend; Mine will be close too 300k so not a smaller liability!!!!
Were you with MP or another provider?Comment
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i presuem in this case everyone has to appeal /make thier case on an individual basis ... so no class action
Originally posted by DonkeyRhubarb View PostGreater than 75% is the highest % a barrister will ever give. Even if they think it's a virtual dead cert.
In our case, the barrister we've used is an FTT Judge so this gives even more confidence. You can find her past cases by selecting Judge - "Redston, Anne Redston" here:
The Finance & Tax Tribunal
So why would anyone want to settle if the odds are so good?
Because there's always a risk, no matter how small, that a tribunal won't see it the same way. And the outcome is binary, win or lose, all or nothing. Also, even if you win, HMRC will probably appeal. It could drag on for years.Comment
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Originally posted by DonkeyRhubarb View PostGreater than 75% is the highest % a barrister will ever give. Even if they think it's a virtual dead cert.
In our case, the barrister we've used is an FTT Judge so this gives even more confidence. You can find her past cases by selecting Judge - "Redston, Anne Redston" here:
The Finance & Tax Tribunal
So why would anyone want to settle if the odds are so good?
Because there's always a risk, no matter how small, that a tribunal won't see it the same way. And the outcome is binary, win or lose, all or nothing. Also, even if you win, HMRC will probably appeal. It could drag on for years.Comment
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Originally posted by GripRacing View PostHi Helen7,
Were you with MP or another provider?Comment
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Originally posted by elpinar View Posti presuem in this case everyone has to appeal /make thier case on an individual basis ... so no class action
HMRC didn't properly investigate the scheme in the first place which is why the George argument works.Comment
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Originally posted by SleepingFireman View PostI've received the pre-APN letter but 2 others I know well haven't. My liability is a not an insignificant 5 figure amount, where as the others are well into 6 figures.
Could HRMC be targeting the smaller liabilities first in a hope those individuals have more chance of just paying up?I couldn't give two fornicators! Yes, really!Comment
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