No To Retro Tax – Campaign Against Section 58 Finance Act 2008

[centurian]

Jimmy Carr getting roasted on 8 out of 10 cats - 8 Out of 10 Cats - 4oD - Channel 4

Now he knows how Angus Deayton felt

In other news, at least if BN66 doesn't get overturned, it could be up to 38 years before you actually have to cough up the cash.

http://www.telegraph.co.uk/finance/p...-billions.html

[DonkeyRhubarb]

HMRC have already bankrupted someone over S58

• the person had mental health issues
• they ignored closure notices
• HMRC petitioned for bankruptcy
• the person's family tried to intervene but HMRC/receiver would not listen
• the person was made bankrupt

[Toocan]

HMRC: taxman embroiled in 20,000 tribunal cases 'costing billions' - Telegraph

Did you note this:

"The department has a number of senior people close to retirement while the work of the elite “specialist investigations unit” is said to have “deteriorated” in recent years, it was claimed. "

Is this is SI unit being hung out? Their testimony to the High Court will open up a serious problem for the credibility of HMRC in due course.

[Toocan]

• the person had mental health issues
• they ignored closure notices
• HMRC petitioned for bankruptcy
• the person's family tried to intervene but HMRC/receiver would not listen
• the person was made bankrupt

Doesn't that go against the commitment that HMRCs QC made in the High Court?

Based on this news, it would appear HMRC do not even keep promises made to a High Court Judge.

[nevergiveup]

• the person had mental health issues
• they ignored closure notices
• HMRC petitioned for bankruptcy
• the person's family tried to intervene but HMRC/receiver would not listen
• the person was made bankrupt

I can't believe it. Surely if the poor person had mental health issues the Judge should not be able to bankrupt that person. That's so unfair.

I truly believe what goes around comes around so watch out HRMC.

[bananarepublic]

Welcome to the future

• the person had mental health issues
• they ignored closure notices
• HMRC petitioned for bankruptcy
• the person's family tried to intervene but HMRC/receiver would not listen
• the person was made bankrupt

Because this has dragged on for so long do not think that this can't happen to anybody else!! Any of our circumstances can change unexpectedly and those who are able to pay now may not be able to do in several years time through no fault of their own. Be under no illusion, if HMRC win this there will be no deals and this will be common place.

Letters from Gauke (et al) have been carefully phrased in that HMRC will [only] consider a payment plan where people have "short term" difficulties in paying.

This is why everybody affected *must* meet with their MP *and* join the NTRT campaign

[mrkitchen]

Fobbed off again !

Initial email sent to Connservative constituency address plus a letter, recorded delivery, followed up by an extract email to the parliament address.
Lets hope he can finally grasp the issue and support us.

"Thank you for your email; this is a standard response. This is just a brief message to confirm that your correspondence has been received.

Due to a strict parliamentary convention, Members of Parliament are only allowed to deal with correspondence from their own constituents. I would therefore be grateful if you could please ensure that you have included your full postal address in your email. If you have not, please confirm this by replying to this email. If you have provided your address, then no further action is required.
James responds to his constituents’ concerns in writing"

Address has been supplied on all communication, of course this is delaying tatics, so I have replied urging action before Tuesday, if I don't hear by Monday, I have informed him I will be paying him a visit.
Only problem is how do I track him down ?

[BrilloPad]

Be under no illusion, if HMRC win this there will be no deals and this will be common place.

Letters from Gauke (et al) have been carefully phrased in that HMRC will [only] consider a payment plan where people have "short term" difficulties in paying.

This is why everybody affected *must* meet with their MP *and* join the NTRT campaign

+1

Its a fight to the death. Winner takes all.

[SantaClaus]

"Thank you for your email; this is a standard response. This is just a brief message to confirm that your correspondence has been received.

Due to a strict parliamentary convention, Members of Parliament are only allowed to deal with correspondence from their own constituents. I would therefore be grateful if you could please ensure that you have included your full postal address in your email. If you have not, please confirm this by replying to this email. If you have provided your address, then no further action is required.
James responds to his constituents’ concerns in writing"

Address has been supplied on all communication, of course this is delaying tatics, so I have replied urging action before Tuesday, if I don't hear by Monday, I have informed him I will be paying him a visit.
Only problem is how do I track him down ?

Hi MrKitchen

Your MP should have a website with his surgery address.

MP's websites can be found here by postcode:

Search (Find Your MP) - UK Parliament

[the great escape]

Yes, the Minister is Gauke.

The committee members can be found here:
House of Commons Public Bill Committee on the Finance Bill 2012-13 — UK Parliament

NTRT/Whitehouse have met a number of them in Westminster, and we have supporters from all 3 parties.

All members have been presented with the briefing material, and they have been sent a new briefing paper for Tuesday's debate.

Did anybody write to an MP who is actually on the Finance Committee? (apart from Mr Gauke). Also did someone write to Nigel Mills directly or is his involvement entirely down to Whitehouse?

Obviously any MP not on the Comm. has been feeding our letters into Gauke who, on rebutting, has been given a head start in dreaming up an argument to enforce the retrospection. Millsy naturally has a counter. But where do the rest lie I wonder? I get the impression that if Gauke is the most informed, tallest hog in the trough and the rest are on-the-fence, he might find it easy to bring the remainder around to his way of thinking. Is there some history on the other committee members that might present a challenge to The Gauke? Interested to know, ahead of ringing Whitehouse Monday.