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    Flat rate VAT Return question

    I'm just about to submit my first ever VAT return and I want to make sure I get the figures right. Can I just quickly check my understanding is correct.

    If for arguments sake I only raised 1 invoice for the period covered by this VAT return; that invoice was for 50 hours worked at £20p/h, which is a total of £1000. The total invoice raised would be £1200 to include 20% VAT.

    My flat rate VAT for my first year is 13.5%

    So the figure in box 1 on the online form (Vat due on sales and other outputs) would be 13.5% of the total invoice amount (£1200), in this example £162. Or should it be 13.5% of £1000?

    And the figure in box 6 (Your flat rate turnover for the period) would be the total invoice amount, in this example £1200?

    I just want to make sure I 'really get it' before pushing that submit button

    Thanks guys

    #2
    You're taking 13.5% of the gross, so £1,200 = £162. The box 6 figure should be the gross sales value, so £1,200 (it says net sales, but that's just because they've never updated the form).
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      #3
      Originally posted by pippin View Post
      I'm just about to submit my first ever VAT return and I want to make sure I get the figures right. Can I just quickly check my understanding is correct.

      If for arguments sake I only raised 1 invoice for the period covered by this VAT return; that invoice was for 50 hours worked at £20p/h, which is a total of £1000. The total invoice raised would be £1200 to include 20% VAT.

      My flat rate VAT for my first year is 13.5%

      So the figure in box 1 on the online form (Vat due on sales and other outputs) would be 13.5% of the total invoice amount (£1200), in this example £162. Or should it be 13.5% of £1000?

      And the figure in box 6 (Your flat rate turnover for the period) would be the total invoice amount, in this example £1200?

      I just want to make sure I 'really get it' before pushing that submit button

      Thanks guys
      The figures should look like this based on your workings

      Box 1 £162
      Box 2 £0
      Box 3 £162
      Box 4 £0
      Box 5 £162
      Box 6 £1200
      Box 7 £0
      Box 8 £0
      Box 9 £0

      You can press submit

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        #4
        Originally posted by pippin View Post
        I'm just about to submit my first ever VAT return and I want to make sure I get the figures right. Can I just quickly check my understanding is correct.

        If for arguments sake I only raised 1 invoice for the period covered by this VAT return; that invoice was for 50 hours worked at £20p/h, which is a total of £1000. The total invoice raised would be £1200 to include 20% VAT.

        My flat rate VAT for my first year is 13.5%

        So the figure in box 1 on the online form (Vat due on sales and other outputs) would be 13.5% of the total invoice amount (£1200), in this example £162. Or should it be 13.5% of £1000?

        And the figure in box 6 (Your flat rate turnover for the period) would be the total invoice amount, in this example £1200?

        I just want to make sure I 'really get it' before pushing that submit button

        Thanks guys
        Box 1 should be the VAT due, so in your example 13.5% of £1,200 ie £162.00

        The Flat rate % is applied to the gross invoice value.

        Box 6 should be the gross invoice value ie £1,200

        Alan

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          #5
          Thank you guys, I thought that was right but a bit paranoid about Mr Vat Man.

          You're time is much appreciated

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            #6
            Originally posted by pippin View Post
            If for arguments sake I only raised 1 invoice for the period covered by this VAT return;
            Do you know that you can also use cash based turnover method?

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              #7
              Originally posted by Kugel View Post
              Do you know that you can also use cash based turnover method?

              Nope, what's that ?

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                #8
                Originally posted by pippin View Post
                Nope, what's that ?
                Under cash based turnover method you only account for VAT on paid invoices.

                HMRC - Flat Rate Scheme for small businesses

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                  #9
                  Done.

                  Thanks for your help
                  Last edited by pippin; 2 February 2012, 16:14.

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