electronic timesheet processing.

[thequ1ck]

Regulation 12 was brought out in April 2004 to protect lower paid workers.

Maybe you'd like to be contracting in central London for less than £10/hr
and having to find rent when you don't get paid on time.

edit - when was the last time you had to go without food for 3 days because
your employment business wouldn't accept a faxed timesheet??

Wow I consider myself lucky if I get paid within 60 days, I'd love to be screwed as badly as you have been. You have my sympathy

I'd hate to have a customer who actually paid within the terms of the contract it would really screw up my view of the world.

[malvolio]

The problem exactly is that he thinks he's a contractor but still wants all the permie benefits and protections... Holiday pay?? What's that then? No, I'm serious - why are you getting holiday pay as a contractor?

Come on, the worst case scenario is you have to go one week without income, and I kind of assume you've already done that at the start of the contract. If you're running your money that close to the ground, you really ought to look at something more fundamental than getting paid quicker.

[thequ1ck]

Then what exactly are Hays getting paid for?

[QUOTE=malvolio]The problem exactly is that he thinks he's a contractor but still wants all the permie benefits and protections... Holiday pay?? What's that then? No, I'm serious - why are you getting holiday pay as a contractor?
[QUOTE]

[Lucifer Box]

Then what exactly are Hays getting paid for?

For introducing you to the client (i.e. finding you the gig) and then acting as a factoring service.

[boredsenseless]

[QUOTE=thequ1ck]Then what exactly are Hays getting paid for?

[QUOTE=malvolio]The problem exactly is that he thinks he's a contractor but still wants all the permie benefits and protections... Holiday pay?? What's that then? No, I'm serious - why are you getting holiday pay as a contractor?

different line of questioning - but they are being paid for one of two reasons

1) because they found the role and hold the client relationship - which is a far more valuable asset than possessing the skills to deliver the job.

2) because you decided to let them act as a payroll processing agent whose job it is to hise the fact that you are really employed by the end client.

[boredsenseless]

For introducing you to the client (i.e. finding you the gig) and then acting as a factoring service.

Will you stop beating me to all the good answers !!!

[Lucifer Box]

Will you stop beating me to all the good answers !!!

Sorry, boredsenseless, it's a quiet day at the office

[thequ1ck]

Firstly they are not doing the client relationship any good as I have
now taken another role in part due to Hays's ineptitude.

Secondly, my umbrella company does most of my payroll processing,
I asked Hays this morning how long it takes to process my timesheet
for Giant and they said less than 30 seconds but I've got to wait 2 weeks
for them to do it because they don't accept faxes.

different line of questioning - but they are being paid for one of two reasons

1) because they found the role and hold the client relationship - which is a far more valuable asset than possessing the skills to deliver the job.

2) because you decided to let them act as a payroll processing agent whose job it is to hise the fact that you are really employed by the end client.

[paulb567]

Hays are getting paid because they have a contract with the client to supply a worker/contractor to do your job. The client would go to someone like Hays to save themselves the hassle of sifting through 100s of irrelevant CVs to find someone to fill the position. They'd also go to someone like Hays because they want an employee without the hassle of pay roll, sick pay, holiday pay, employment rights, etc, etc.

The same way your getting paid because you have a contract with Hays (or your Umbrella does).

Only difference is Hays are probably being paid twice what you are paid for doing a lot less, but thats the way of the world.

edit - I obviously don't type fast enough

[interested]

If you're getting holiday pay then you're PAYE rather than Ltd. So why are you going through Giant?