Originally posted by ASB
View Post
- Visitors can check out the Forum FAQ by clicking this link. You have to register before you can post: click the REGISTER link above to proceed. To start viewing messages, select the forum that you want to visit from the selection below. View our Forum Privacy Policy.
- Want to receive the latest contracting news and advice straight to your inbox? Sign up to the ContractorUK newsletter here. Every sign up will also be entered into a draw to WIN £100 Amazon vouchers!
Avoiding Tax
Collapse
X
-
-
The Dextra Case which went to House of Lords determined that there was no corporation tax deduction for payments into EBT's. As a result of this case and legislation that was introduced before the Dextra Case was decided (which basically did the same thing just in case HMRC lost the Dextra case) scheme promoters used offshore companies to employ contractors and pay monies into EBT's . These offshore schemes are not subject to UK corporation tax rules and most of them do not pay any company tax.Originally posted by ASB View PostI would expect changes in the finance act. So, as is common it will be implemented with retrospective effect to the beginning of the tax year. The intention has already been stated. I suspect that quite a lot of it will be geared to ensuring the there is no corporation tax deduction on contributions to an EFRBS or EBT until benefits are paid which are actually charged to tax (rather than just potentially charged to tax).
It would be very speculative to say how the UK will stop such schemes except that they have announced they intend to do so from April 2011 (NOT forgetting that some of these schemes may not work under existing law depending on how they are administered - see separate thread on EBT's). Draft legislation could be released as early as 9 December 2010.Last edited by Alan Jones; 24 November 2010, 11:11.Comment
-
That, as ever, is of course the question. Dextra, as was mentioned by Alan established that the payment into the trust (which if I remember correctly was a family benefit trust of sorts) was denied CT relief - and subsequent to this there is specific legislation of course. It also established, again if memory serves, that the payments made out of the trust were not taxable.Originally posted by Vallah View PostEven though most of the EBT providers are based offshore and don't pay corporation tax?
Thus, under the current rule set, the impact is such that the comapny get no CT deduction, the employees get no tax bill. Broadly neutral probably, though there may still be savings related to NI.
I do imagine it would be fairly easy to draft appropriate legislation easily achieved to ensure the objectives of denying CT relief until income tax is paid (flying pig alert judging by history though, they haven't been too good at it in the past).
Now, as you rightly point out, what about when the payment into the EBT comes from an offshore entity.
I guess there are two basic issues: how does the payer get the money in the first place? Is there anyway of trying to ensure this does not get CT relief? Legislating against this is going to be rather more difficult.
Overall I imagine there will be some changes. Providers of this sort of tax planning will be busy, it'll close off some avenues and open up different ones. So the system carries on repeating itself.Comment
- Home
- News & Features
- First Timers
- IR35 / S660 / BN66
- Employee Benefit Trusts
- Agency Workers Regulations
- MSC Legislation
- Limited Companies
- Dividends
- Umbrella Company
- VAT / Flat Rate VAT
- Job News & Guides
- Money News & Guides
- Guide to Contracts
- Successful Contracting
- Contracting Overseas
- Contractor Calculators
- MVL
- Contractor Expenses
Advertisers
Contractor Services
CUK News
- Statutory Sick Pay (SSP) for umbrella company contractors: an April 2026 explainer Today 07:19
- IR35: IT contractors ‘most concerned about off-payroll working rules’ Yesterday 07:11
- Labour’s near-silence on its employment status shakeup is telling, and disappointing Feb 3 07:47
- Business expenses: What IT contractors can and cannot claim from HMRC Jan 30 08:44
- April’s umbrella PAYE risk: how contractors’ end-clients are prepping Jan 29 05:45
- How EV tax changes of 2025-2028 add up for contractor limited company directors Jan 28 08:11
- Under the terms he was shackled by, Ray McCann’s Loan Charge Review probably is a fair resolution Jan 27 08:41
- Contractors, a £25million crackdown on rogue company directors is coming Jan 26 05:02
- How to run a contractor limited company — efficiently. Part one: software Jan 22 23:31
- Forget February as an MSC contractor seeking clarity, and maybe forget fairness altogether Jan 22 19:57

Comment