BN66 - Round 2 (Court of Appeal)

[DonkeyRhubarb]

I thought better than posting that possibly dodgy comparison!

Obviously my post was tongue in cheek but there are a couple serious points:

(1) the higher courts are courts of law not public opinion

(2) the courts have no qualms about going against the Government, even in highly controversial cases like this

"The Supreme Court ruling will open the door for hundreds of serious criminals to conceal their sick past."

"Five Supreme Court justices unanimously dismissed a Home Office bid to quash their action today."

[Emigre]

We're in good company.

Supreme Court Ruling on Human Rights

But aren't we the ones that have been raped and abused? This Supreme Court judgment supports the abusers.

[DonkeyRhubarb]

But aren't we the ones that have been raped and abused? This Supreme Court judgment supports the abusers.

I'm sure the Sun and joe public would view us as "tax abusers" but that wasn't my point.

Whatever your views on this SC ruling, it was reassuring to see the courts (a) assess the case on legality not morality and (b) take a stance in defiance of the legislature.

[Vallah]

I'm sure the Sun and joe public would view us as "tax abusers" but that wasn't my point.

Whatever your views on this SC ruling, it was reassuring to see the courts (a) assess the case on legality not morality and (b) take a stance in defiance of the legislature.

I agree DR. The fear all along is that the government simply cannot afford to lose the case, and so will apply whatever pressure it can to make sure the courts come down on their side. Hopefully the case will eventually reach a level where that pressure doesn't exist, either here or in Europe.

[smalldog]

courts

My fear until we get to Europe is the ability of the government to have a quiet word in the shell likes of the judges to convince them not to rock the government boat. Its not just HMRC revenues at stake, its reputations, credibility and potentially even perjury with some of the creativity we have seen in justifying the legislation!

[ASB]

Obviously my post was tongue in cheek but there are a couple serious points:

(1) the higher courts are courts of law not public opinion

(2) the courts have no qualms about going against the Government, even in highly controversial cases like this

"The Supreme Court ruling will open the door for hundreds of serious criminals to conceal their sick past."

"Five Supreme Court justices unanimously dismissed a Home Office bid to quash their action today."

FWIW I think the SC was entirely right; and I am glad they found the way they did.

[DonkeyRhubarb]

New CUK forum

Anyone else having problems since they "upgraded" CUK?

I could probably learn to live with the new look and feel (even though I preferred the old minimalist style) but it runs sooooo damn slowly on my older computer I can't be doing with it.

This is one instance where I would fully support retrospection.

I guess HMRC will be pleased though if it curtails my activities.

[smalldog]

IR35 and retro

you never know this could help bring home to some of the others that they could end up being in the same position as us at some point in the future, might help rally our cause:

http://forums.contractoruk.com/accou...ml#post1129629

[Squicker]

My fear until we get to Europe is the ability of the government to have a quiet word in the shell likes of the judges to convince them not to rock the government boat. Its not just HMRC revenues at stake, its reputations, credibility and potentially even perjury with some of the creativity we have seen in justifying the legislation!

That's illogical thinking. Look what happened to the government at the hands of a Supreme court judge over the rendition matter. And the government had far far more at stake with that case than with ours, both legally and with their reputations.

PS - the new forum design is bloody awful. What did they do? Get an infinite number of monkeys working Sharepoint Designer to churn this muck out???

[smalldog]

squicker my timing was awful, the day before that was on the forum I posted that about the courts.....gives me a bit more hope since finding out about the supreme court!