BN66 - JR Judgement Day

[Doug1965]

More than just a casual observer?

It used to be so much easier when you could detect trolls just by sending your billy goats across the bridge.

[Overwhelmed]

A friend in the press?

Maybe we have one, although the articles are quite old, they are very perceptive:

http://www.timesonline.co.uk/tol/com...cle2925936.ece

http://www.timesonline.co.uk/tol/com...cle6950907.ece

[northernSoul]

I'm all for giving people the benefit of the doubt but:

• Joined 20th Jan 2010
• 17 posts since
• Claims to be just an "IT bod" with a law degree
• Mentioned suing Montpelier numerous times

More than just a casual observer?

jeez. If there's anything that gets the hackles up is the 'M' word. Its as if its an unspoken 'nono'. Some of you are in desparate straits and it may be - may be - you have redress against Montpelier as well as HMRC, Parliament and the rest of the universe. Diehard irrational loyalty or hatred to any party - MTM, HMRC - is an indulgence you just don't need.

[normalbloke]

Just go away...

Diehard irrational loyalty or hatred to any party - MTM, HMRC - is an indulgence you just don't need.

"..irrational loyalty...."? what.. to someone who is funding our defence? Nothing irrational about that. Then again, rationality has never been a strong point of yours.

[northernSoul]

"..irrational loyalty...."? what.. to someone who is funding our defence? Nothing irrational about that. Then again, rationality has never been a strong point of yours.

That is true, but its their defence as well.

[portseven]

That is true, but its their defence as well.

and.....

[SantaClaus]

Will the real Alan Jones please stand up!

[BolshieBastard]

Again, sorry if this isn't something that anyone has any knowledge on, just seems to me that if it all goes belly-up I (we) would have been sold a product that has not provided any of the results as stated in the literature etc. and has left me (us) in a worse position than if I (we) had done nothing (as I will owe 5 yrs taxation as well as having paid 5yrs fees).

Thanks again for any help/responses.

I really dont see why you are even raising this. Perhaps thats whay other have ignored you?

You'd be very foolish IMO to start any legal action against your scheme's provider(s) while the question of BN66 is still subject to appeal and further legal action.

Once all those legal avenues have been exhausted and, if all schemes were finally declared 'illegal,' then you'd have the option to take your own legal action against the provider of your scheme or schemes.

But, how much is that going to cost you and just how confident would you be of getting redress through the courts?

[Toocan]

The law in 2003 is the same as the law in 2008. Its the legal system : there is more or less nothing Parliament cannot legislate to do, including change history. As a scholar once noted, 'the uk parliament can outlaw public smoking in the streets of paris'.

In your case you are less affected as limitation means you will probably only owe from 2002-2003. Well, that's unless they claim that for some exotic reason they can go further back.

Oh dear "Mr A" - wasn't the drunken rant enough?

I can 'say' anything I like - it doesn't make it enforceable.

And while ,shall we call them supremacists, can claim the absolute sovereignty of Parliament they forgot what has all gone on. If the UK government did nothing in the face of a declaration of incompatibility (as a certain A.Brannigan suggested they might) then it would be much easier to get Europe involved. Parliament HAS to do what Europe says – unless and until the UK decides to leave the EU. Is that going to happen? I doubt it. So the ECHR will be respected.

You appear to have came on here to stir up strife. Let's tackle some of your other suggestions:

Q: Can one sue ones scheme provider?
A: No, not if the scheme were to fail on s.58.

Q: Will s.58 be allowed to stand?
A: Unlikely - see my earlier messages.

Q: Is it all over if s.58 is allowed to stand?
A: No.

Q: Could one have a claim against a scheme provider if it was found that the scheme works?
A: If they told you to settle, Yes.

I'm not sure who you are. NorthernSoul? No. Lost, maybe, but not Northern.

[SantaClaus]

I think the suggestion to sue Montpelier was a dead giveaway that Northern Zombie is Alan Jones re-incarnated.