BN66 - the road to Judicial Review

[SantaClaus]

I will be there, sitting behind Mr YouKnowWho (TM) and breathing down the back of his neck

[ASB]

Other retrospection.

Good luck for Jan 10.

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Pooh. This is a bit different, but it is about retrospection and I am very cross.

Last December my wife and I separated. I'm a decent bloke and obviously want to support my children (it's not going well, they have ceased to be ours). At the time my income was such that I thought I had to pay 540 a month child support - though I was wrong in that it was actually 560.

Anyway for the first couple of months it was 1500 I paid, for a few more it was 1400, then 900 for a few as finances started to bite and then I had to reduce it to what I believed (wrongly) was the correct CSA amount. Last 3 months 540 only. (She is in the main house of 5000 sq ft and a few acres - no mortgage and I am in a small townhouse with a huge mortgage - but that is one for the judge)

Anyway, as it happens I got a bonus a few month ago. About 5k net. She has decided to make a CSA claim. So what the end game? Yep, got it wrong, so from today going forward I must play 560. The error is NOT backdated, is it right that the bonus should also be forward dated? I'm effectively paying CSA on money I've paid. Trying to be decent has simply put me in the position where I've paid about 6k more than I had to - and now have to pay more on money that she has already had. Don't get me wrong. I'm happy to pay the amount, but if I don't get the same bonus next year (unlikely in the extreme) I have to go to a bloody tribunal. Even though my net income is "inflated" for CSA purpose by 350 a month for what I've already paid on.
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Sorry. Not trying to hijack, just a bit cross. Retrospected for a year.

[Emigre]

Good luck for Jan 10.

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Pooh. This is a bit different, but it is about retrospection and I am very cross.

Last December my wife and I separated. I'm a decent bloke and obviously want to support my children (it's not going well, they have ceased to be ours). At the time my income was such that I thought I had to pay 540 a month child support - though I was wrong in that it was actually 560.

Anyway for the first couple of months it was 1500 I paid, for a few more it was 1400, then 900 for a few as finances started to bite and then I had to reduce it to what I believed (wrongly) was the correct CSA amount. Last 3 months 540 only. (She is in the main house of 5000 sq ft and a few acres - no mortgage and I am in a small townhouse with a huge mortgage - but that is one for the judge)

Anyway, as it happens I got a bonus a few month ago. About 5k net. She has decided to make a CSA claim. So what the end game? Yep, got it wrong, so from today going forward I must play 560. The error is NOT backdated, is it right that the bonus should also be forward dated? I'm effectively paying CSA on money I've paid. Trying to be decent has simply put me in the position where I've paid about 6k more than I had to - and now have to pay more on money that she has already had. Don't get me wrong. I'm happy to pay the amount, but if I don't get the same bonus next year (unlikely in the extreme) I have to go to a bloody tribunal. Even though my net income is "inflated" for CSA purpose by 350 a month for what I've already paid on.
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Sorry. Not trying to hijack, just a bit cross. Retrospected for a year.

Sorry to hear of your plight, ASB. I've been through all of what you are going through, and took the same position as you re the children. From what you have said it seems that divorce is inevitable. If so, my recommendation to you is to get the court to agree the financial arrangements as fast as possible. It is the only point at which you acquire some degree of certainty about your commitments. It is also unlikely that the court would agree to what seems like a serious imbalance in the split of joint marital assets.

I appreciate that you want to do the best for your children. Get the legal split agreed first then you can supplement from a position of choice if you so wish.

Good luck

[Tax_shouldnt_be_taxing]

Taking us for a ride

DR, is this you? It looks like you...

http://www.express.co.uk/posts/view/...a-donkey-ride-

It appears that in the 2008 EU accounts, a number of projects have come to light where tax payers money has been thrown away. The one that caught my eye was this article.

A donkey is travelling around schools in Europe keeping a journal of the different European identities.

And our government is worried about tax receipts! Well 6.1 billion quid to the EU on such projects as this seems to be a good starting point to save tax.

And they say donkeys can't write

[BrilloPad]

Good luck for Jan 10.

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Pooh. This is a bit different, but it is about retrospection and I am very cross.

Last December my wife and I separated. I'm a decent bloke and obviously want to support my children (it's not going well, they have ceased to be ours). At the time my income was such that I thought I had to pay 540 a month child support - though I was wrong in that it was actually 560.

Anyway for the first couple of months it was 1500 I paid, for a few more it was 1400, then 900 for a few as finances started to bite and then I had to reduce it to what I believed (wrongly) was the correct CSA amount. Last 3 months 540 only. (She is in the main house of 5000 sq ft and a few acres - no mortgage and I am in a small townhouse with a huge mortgage - but that is one for the judge)

Anyway, as it happens I got a bonus a few month ago. About 5k net. She has decided to make a CSA claim. So what the end game? Yep, got it wrong, so from today going forward I must play 560. The error is NOT backdated, is it right that the bonus should also be forward dated? I'm effectively paying CSA on money I've paid. Trying to be decent has simply put me in the position where I've paid about 6k more than I had to - and now have to pay more on money that she has already had. Don't get me wrong. I'm happy to pay the amount, but if I don't get the same bonus next year (unlikely in the extreme) I have to go to a bloody tribunal. Even though my net income is "inflated" for CSA purpose by 350 a month for what I've already paid on.
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Sorry. Not trying to hijack, just a bit cross. Retrospected for a year.

If you start a thread in general or PM me I will try to help. As you say, best to keep this thread clean.

[BrilloPad]

I will be there, sitting behind Mr YouKnowWho (TM) and breathing down the back of his neck

Dont forget what you have to do. Just wait until I set off the fire alarms to distract everyone.......

[DonkeyRhubarb]

At the moment, 19th Jan is just a provisional date, and we should know more after the Directions Hearing next week.

[ROBIN REDBREAST]

Jr

Has anyone spoken to MontP about this and established who will be representing us - will it be the same gents hwo did us proud at the original JR request meeting?

Do we know what "dirt" we will be presenting to the JR and under what basis? Call me a pessimist but can you honestly se ethe govermnet allowing us to win this....!??

At the moment, 19th Jan is just a provisional date, and we should know more after the Directions Hearing next week.

[nuffsaid]

Attendance?

What's the view on us attending the hearing?

Just an idea; but perhaps we should turn up for a couple of hours so that Hector and the Judge can be reminded that there are real people affected by this, especially if we can get a good turn-out?

[Emigre]

What's the view on us attending the hearing?

Just an idea; but perhaps we should turn up for a couple of hours so that Hector and the Judge can be reminded that there are real people affected by this, especially if we can get a good turn-out?

A few of us attended the application hearing in July. These court rooms are not large and they don't permit standing. HMRC had a team of about 10 people there. Then there were representatives from Steed, deGraaf, and PWC. There were only a few seats left! Its important that we have a presence there and maybe we agree to have more people than the court can hold in order to let the court know of the level of interest.

Has anyone spoken to MontP about this and established who will be representing us - will it be the same gents hwo did us proud at the original JR request meeting?

Do we know what "dirt" we will be presenting to the JR and under what basis? Call me a pessimist but can you honestly se ethe govermnet allowing us to win this....!??

You're a pessimist.