BN66 - the road to Judicial Review

[lucozade]

A few of us have been toying with the idea of setting up a web site as a focus for the campaign eg. something like www.notoretro.org.uk

This would contain all the background info on the case, evidence that has been gathered so far, results of FOI requests, latest updates, status of JCHR & JR. It would be a bit like the first post of this thread:

http://forums.contractoruk.com/877547-post1.html

except more in-depth, better structured and generally more professional looking.

What do people think? Worth the effort/not worth the effort?

Sounds like a great idea. If you need assistance on funding the site then I'm happy to put some money into the pot.

Only reservation would be that HMRC would have a one-stop-shop to obtain all the information they need and easily too.

[WhatEver]

Only reservation would be that HMRC would have a one-stop-shop to obtain all the information they need and easily too.

Yes, and they could see instantly how their story doesn't stack up and may help them realise how fruitless the battle will be - could work in our favour

Agreed, happy to chip in too

[silver_lining]

I think HMRC knew full well the retrospective provisions would fold like a cheap deck chair if seriously challenged. But what do they care? It's not their own money they are using to fight it, they have successfully spread fear of using the IOM, some weaker people have coughed up and there was always the chance we may not have mounted a strong challenge.

However, we're not piss-weak, simple minded fools like Mr You Know Who and the rest of his quisling cohorts. We're intelligent people used to not only following processes, but designing them and improving them.

So they can all go f**k themselves as far as I am concerned.

When we've won this case, I look forward to a trip to Colombia where I shall be filmed snorting the whole lot off a hooker's back whilst shouting 'here's to you, Mr You Know Who!!'

That made me laugh out loud on the very quiet train... gold

[silver_lining]

A few of us have been toying with the idea of setting up a web site as a focus for the campaign eg. something like www.notoretro.org.uk

This would contain all the background info on the case, evidence that has been gathered so far, results of FOI requests, latest updates, status of JCHR & JR. It would be a bit like the first post of this thread:

http://forums.contractoruk.com/877547-post1.html

except more in-depth, better structured and generally more professional looking.

What do people think? Worth the effort/not worth the effort?

DR,

Think this is a good idea if someone has the time... and it doesn't detract from more fruitful avenues.....

I think before we know it we could have a real PCG forming with you at the helm...

slightly tongue in cheek all you pro PCGers...

SL

[BrilloPad]

Yes, and they could see instantly how their story doesn't stack up and may help them realise how fruitless the battle will be - could work in our favour

Agreed, happy to chip in too

The chips are down for HMRC : its a fight to the death. Retrospection out of the bag and they cant put it back in. Its going all the way. We will win : but its going to take a loooooooong while.

[PlaneSailing]

Timms must be a busy boy.

I have a good rapport with the commons clerk who runs the committee, so hopefully I will hear something before Timms reply is put on their website.

Timms reply is due by next Tuesday. I suspect the Treasury may ask for an extension.

I wonder how Mr. Timms plans on doing his impact assessment? I know
he's not called me to ask how I'm affected.

Mind you after his stunningly accurate impact assessment of IR35,
were he reckoned he'd get £200 millon a year extra, I expect he'll
be using a random numebr generator.

[DonkeyRhubarb]

I wonder how Mr. Timms plans on doing his impact assessment?

He doesn't need to.

"The provision was designed to screw these people, and the representations the Committee have received confirm that it has had the impact we intended."

[Emigre]

I wonder how Mr. Timms plans on doing his impact assessment? I know
he's not called me to ask how I'm affected.

Mind you after his stunningly accurate impact assessment of IR35,
were he reckoned he'd get £200 millon a year extra, I expect he'll
be using a random numebr generator.

Why is it that every tax initiative is quoted as likely to generate £200 million. Is there some kind of internal departmental threshold above which taking the piss is completely acceptable?

[smalldog]

Why is it that every tax initiative is quoted as likely to generate £200 million. Is there some kind of internal departmental threshold above which taking the piss is completely acceptable?

does seem too much of a coincidence that the latest one they closed retro was also £200m....nice easy round number for them...obviously a lot of work has gone into assessing the income generated...

If they actually did any real type of assessments they would more accurately assess the ability to pay, not what they think they would get in an ideal world situation where we can all pay.

They just work on realising all of the oustanding monies which is completely off the mark...Hopefully this will be highlighted by the JCHR report. Their supposed £200m could easily turn into £5m, and with how much collateral damage to those its been collected from Mr Timms?

[Ninja]

He doesn't need to.

"The provision was designed to screw these people, and the representations the Committee have received confirm that it has had the impact we intended."

Who is this quote attributed to?