BN66 - the road to Judicial Review

[seadog]

Folks,

The reply from Mr Timms blanks serious questions raised by the JCHR. Numerous FOI requests have been met with the same apathy. There is a Human Rights issue at the heart of the JR and no matter how questions are posed, HMT seem to think it appropriate to blank the need to qualify their position qoting rather dubious reasons such as "not in the public interest". Well, I am part of the public and I want to know how HMRC came to the decision that BN66 was lawful given the concerns of JCHR, CIOT, members of Parliament and others.

I intend on exploring channels to have HMRC explain themselves not least due to the fact that delayed and ongoing concerns about "peaceful enjoyment" remain unanswered despite numerous and fair requests being made on the part of the many. As FDR quoted, speak softly and carry a big stick. Well, I hope that the JCHR are "the big stick" and I will speak softly.

There is much afoot to get answers to fair public questions. This is not the time to rest or retreat, but rather to steel ourselves to ask questions that a democracy is engineered to answer.Nobody is above the law not even government. Explain your case, share it with the public and answer to those who challenge the virtues of your acts. This is the way of Human Rights. Hiding behind legislation, exemption and the case of future events is a matter of autocracy and not of a government who claims to "listen and learn". Let us make this quote so.

Respect the law but never fail to use the instruments provided by the law to ask the clear and fair democratic question of "why?". Hence why the response to the JCHR and the numerous FOI requests need to be improved, as my school report once said "could do better"...

Here Here

[seadog]

I have just heard from our legal team that there is an outside chance of the JR happening before Xmas. We should know more in a couple of weeks time when the court lists cases for the autumn term.

The JR is now on the warned list (CO/10012/2008 - Huitson v HM Revenue & Customs), although I'm not 100% clear what this means.

See spreadsheet at bottom of page:
http://www.hmcourts-service.gov.uk/cms/2294.htm

Although we are very confident in our case we still need to be ready for a knock back have plan B redy for action.

I think I am right in saying that MontP have said they will appeal and if HMRC starts to try and implement collection on closure notices MontP will appeal all the way to the House of Lords.

[DonkeyRhubarb]

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[KiwiGuy]

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hopefully ill do it this weekend

[DonkeyRhubarb]

hopefully ill do it this weekend

Thanks!
DR

[DonkeyRhubarb]

www.whatdotheyknow.com

This is the FOI site we've been using. It is operated by the registered charity: http://www.mysociety.org.

When we win, I would like to propose we make a donation to them (which by the way is tax deductable ).

Is anyone else up for this?

[Cornish Cream]

Quite agree DR...

There are a number of individuals and organisations that need congratulating in one way or another once we win this battle...

[Boycie]

Closure Notice came through last night, 2nd class post of course - have sent it off to Montpelier today. Darn it! Still at least it is the Bank Holiday weekend - hopefully I can forget about it. Have a good weekend all.

[nuffsaid]

They're at it again

Hi all, and welcome back after a long weekend.

Well, I got home Friday night to another brown envelope from the mafia boys.
This one is from the "POA2 Campaign" department telling me that my 2nd payment on account hasn't been received (which was paid online and one week before due), and also that as I have other 'liabilities' due my case has therefore been transferred to their department.
The letter finishes off with a nice cryptic statement listing the monies that I apparently owe. It looks like they have included 2 out of my 5 years, so I presume that the appeal wasn't received/accepted for these 2 years.

Obviously it was sent off to MontP immediately, and I received a 'dealing with it' email from Natalie on Sunday night (yep, no rest for the wicked I guess).


UPDATE:
I've had a further response from Tom and Natalie, apparently they have had a stack of these come in over the weekend.
Tom has attempted to contact the HMRC and the officer he needs to speak to is out today and his colleague couldn't help!!!
And doesn't that sound all so much like the usual HMRC's style... send a stack of letters out and then make sure there's no-one available to deal with the responses.
Useless tossers

[KiwiGuy]

Closure Notice came through last night, 2nd class post of course - have sent it off to Montpelier today. Darn it! Still at least it is the Bank Holiday weekend - hopefully I can forget about it. Have a good weekend all.

welcome to the club Boycie, you would think Hecktor would have given up on sending these out, seems like alot of work for nothing...oh wait thats the govt, spend loads achive nothing