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BN66 - the road to Judicial Review

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    Originally posted by DonkeyRhubarb View Post
    I think there probably is a risk that you could be refused entry wearing that.

    As far as I'm aware, only Counsel for each side speak at the hearing.

    I doubt Timms would be there but Hartnett might, and possibly one of our "friends" from Manchester special investigations.
    hmmm shame, reckon Timms and Kennedy would be a riot....love to see them cross examined, they would get ripped to shreds!!!! bit of luck Lurch will be out of a job very soon....
    Last edited by smalldog; 6 January 2010, 18:14.

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      Quiz

      Question 5

      HMRC has put forward all but one of the following reasons for justifying a legislative response instead of litigation.

      Which is the one they haven’t used (so far)?

      a) It would bring certainty to the situation
      b) Avoiding litigation would save the taxpayer money
      c) HMRC were confident they would have won in court so the net result would be the same anyway
      d) The outcome of litigation could not be guaranteed
      e) The courts are rigged against HMRC

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        Originally posted by DonkeyRhubarb View Post
        Question 5

        HMRC has put forward all but one of the following reasons for justifying a legislative response instead of litigation.

        Which is the one they haven’t used (so far)?

        a) It would bring certainty to the situation
        b) Avoiding litigation would save the taxpayer money
        c) HMRC were confident they would have won in court so the net result would be the same anyway
        d) The outcome of litigation could not be guaranteed
        e) The courts are rigged against HMRC
        If in doubt pick 'e' though I'm sure they will whine on with this one post Jan 19...

        Happy New year to lurkers and posters
        Let the financial healing commence

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          What are they alying at?

          Originally posted by DonkeyRhubarb View Post
          Question 5

          HMRC has put forward all but one of the following reasons for justifying a legislative response instead of litigation.

          Which is the one they haven’t used (so far)?

          a) It would bring certainty to the situation
          b) Avoiding litigation would save the taxpayer money
          c) HMRC were confident they would have won in court so the net result would be the same anyway
          d) The outcome of litigation could not be guaranteed
          e) The courts are rigged against HMRC
          Have they seriously given 'd' as a reason??

          That fits into the 'if I can't win, I'm taking my ball home' category.

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            Originally posted by PlaneSailing View Post
            Have they seriously given 'd' as a reason??

            That fits into the 'if I can't win, I'm taking my ball home' category.
            You betcha.

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              Originally posted by DonkeyRhubarb View Post
              You betcha.
              I choose to believe the world is flat
              The world is not flat
              I don't want to go to litigation against the Round Earth Society as I may not win
              I create a law that says the world is flat and always was
              The world is now flat

              umm ... looks like a foolproof approach, we're in trouble

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                Originally posted by OnYourBikeGB View Post
                umm ... looks like a foolproof approach, we're in trouble
                It truly beggars belief that they would submit to a court of law that the reason they didn't take it to court originally was that, although they were confident they would win of course, the outcome could not be certain.

                HMRC clearly think they are above the law.

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                  Originally posted by DonkeyRhubarb View Post
                  It truly beggars belief that they would submit to a court of law that the reason they didn't take it to court originally was that, although they were confident they would win of course, the outcome could not be certain.

                  HMRC clearly think they are above the law
                  .
                  you got it...you would have thought by now the penny would have dropped considering all the cases they lose that maybe, just maybe they might be in the wrong..but no the powers at be in HMRC are power crazy, probably bullied at school...

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                    Which way to Law School?

                    Originally posted by DonkeyRhubarb View Post
                    It truly beggars belief that they would submit to a court of law that the reason they didn't take it to court originally was that, although they were confident they would win of course, the outcome could not be certain.

                    HMRC clearly think they are above the law.
                    They weren't guaranteed a win in court, so they thought they'd get
                    the Treasury to sneak in a legisilation that is possibly an infringement
                    of human rights that has resulted in a Judicial Review.

                    If that's not playing fast and loose with taxpayer's money I'm not sure
                    what is.

                    I recall one of the early posts on the forum said that the only people
                    who are going to get truly rich on this sorry state of affairs are the lawyers.
                    That looks more prophetic with every passing day.

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                      Quiz answers

                      1. e - Autumn 2007
                      2. b - It took them several years to work out how the scheme operated
                      3. d - Pre-existing claims for double tax relief were accepted
                      4. b - February (but it was in 2008 not 1987 ie. one month before BN66 was announced)
                      5. e - The courts are rigged against HMRC

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