Belgium: umbrella companies

[LostInBrussels]

[QUOTE=Brussels Slumdog;852532]

Here is my worked example.
What I have not found out yet is how much I could claim in travel expenses
ie Living in Brussels staying over night in Belgium hotels etc
Billing clients in say France and claiming hotels

400 a day
Fees invoiced 8000
Less Expenses 500
Net Revenue 7500
22% soc security 1575
Taxable Income 5925
Tax up to 50% 2501
Take home pay 3423
43%

You mention how relatively quick it is to go down the independant route. Are you referring to forming an sprl?

[LostInBrussels]

I have not found one while sitting on the Bench.
Do you have a degree or proof of your expertise?
Then.
Do you know that it takes about 2 hours to become self employed for
€135.
I found this out at Securex 4 Rue de Genéve.

ITECS doesn't have a Belgian solution for me as I am a Belgian resident.They will take me on their payroll and I would pay full social security+ full tax+ their fee.
The reason being is I am not currently entitled to an E101 so I cannot use their solution.
Most mancos companies working in Switzerland, Luxembourg or Cyprus must exploit/fiddle the E101 rules. They do not look legal to me.
Their quotes are all based on paying social security outside Belgium and tax
in Belgium.
Their idea is that I pay Social security in Cyprus/Switerland where I am neither resident nor a national!
How can I as a Belgian resident with a British passport optain legally an E101
from eg Cyprus to work in Belgium?
Secondly an E101 is only valid for 1 yr. After a year you must apply for an E102. Belgium has the right to refuse an E102.

I guess if your 'employer' is Swiss or Cypriot, it's legal for them to pay social security for you where their company is based.

Anyhow, I am considering setting up my own SPRL. Sorry to be a pain, but can you tell me exactly how I can do it on my own.What is Securex? Is that the place where I have to register? Do you have a phone number or postal code for the place? Just typing in 4 Rue de Genéve into mappy.be is bringing up too many option.

Also, in your calculations in this thread, you show about 500 in expenses. Were you not interested in increasing your expenses by setting up a pension plan? I'm in two minds about this myself.

[candyflipper]

More payroll companies needed.

Of the 30 or so companies I've contacted, only around 6 of them responded, and of those, most of them drag their feet, and withhold information. I'm still looking for an umbrella company that is transparent, and motivated.

If a company that does business in Belgium has not been mentioned in this thread yet, please post.

BTW, one umbrella not mentioned yet is Alpha Resourcing, in case anyone is interested. Although they aren't at all transparent.. they want contractors to sign up for their black box, and find out after they've committed where their money goes.

[Brussels Slumdog]

Guichets d'entreprises

I guess if your 'employer' is Swiss or Cypriot, it's legal for them to pay social security for you where their company is based.

Anyhow, I am considering setting up my own SPRL. Sorry to be a pain, but can you tell me exactly how I can do it on my own.What is Securex? Is that the place where I have to register? Do you have a phone number or postal code for the place? Just typing in 4 Rue de Genéve into mappy.be is bringing up too many option.

Also, in your calculations in this thread, you show about 500 in expenses. Were you not interested in increasing your expenses by setting up a pension plan? I'm in two minds about this myself.

Hi Lost in Brussels, You don't have to use Securex as it just happens to be the "Guichets d'entreprises" that I chose.
http://mineco.fgov.be/enterprises/cr...kbo_fr_006.htm
You will need a Guichets d'entreprises will to do all the required paperwork to set yourself up.
In Belgium Social security is compulsory but you can chose your insurance company . They all charge the same legal rate ,the difference being sevice.
Securex.be -32 2729 95 87.
I am interested in a Pension plan but I believe there is a limit that you can contribute. 3rd pillar but not a generous as in Switzerland

[candyflipper]

Conto Direct Ltd- (Good reasonable fees NL)

Scratch them off the list. Conto Direct does nothing more than accounting. They cannot do invoicing and pay freelancers, and they cannot directly employ contractors. They simply refer contractors to AFSS.

[Cameron Wallace]

how are you searching? The ones you mention are most of them I think. try searching under contractor taxation belgium as I think a couple of them only work via direct referrals. I think some are in trouble in Belgium and have subsequently pulled the pin