SA Tax return

[Lewis]

It appears this is still under debate!

http://www.accountingweb.co.uk/cgi-b...rmat=%25o-%25B

[Gros]

As you seem like a nice chap,

http://www.hmrc.gov.uk/employers/emp-form.htm

Thanks! I think I am a nice chap, though just a bit confused sometimes

[Archangel]

If you use the employers CD sent to you by those kind people at HMRC you can print your P60 at the same time as you submit your P35, P11D etc it gets the info from the P11 that you fill in every month (you can also do this from the CD)

You DO fill in the P11 for each employee/Director each month don't you?

[Gros]

If you use the employers CD sent to you by those kind people at HMRC you can print your P60 at the same time as you submit your P35, P11D etc it gets the info from the P11 that you fill in every month (you can also do this from the CD)

You DO fill in the P11 for each employee/Director each month don't you?

More confusion (!) - I've heard of this CD, but never been sent one. I presume I have to call them and ask for it?

[Lewis]

More confusion (!) - I've heard of this CD, but never been sent one. I presume I have to call them and ask for it?

HMRC send the disc (+updates) automatically when you are registered for PAYE. Unless you have an agent registered with HMRC and in which case they maybe send it to them instead (not sure as I don't have an agent registered).

[rawly]

I did my return on-line early this year, mainly as I didn't want to pay the July 2nd payment (on account), as I was under by 50% based on last year.

I filled out the "Money Derived from a Service Company", as I guess it hardly matters really as it doesn't change what you pay. Anyway, I noticed on my "Print your PDF" as a copy, no matter what I filled out in the box it came out as "None" anyway.

Either it's a bug in the HMRC online software or they are ignoring it this year. (Whenever I went back to edit my SA it still had the figure I originally put in).

I thought it a bit strange - anyone else noticed this yet?

[Lewis]

I did my return on-line early this year, mainly as I didn't want to pay the July 2nd payment (on account), as I was under by 50% based on last year.

I filled out the "Money Derived from a Service Company", as I guess it hardly matters really as it doesn't change what you pay. Anyway, I noticed on my "Print your PDF" as a copy, no matter what I filled out in the box it came out as "None" anyway.

Either it's a bug in the HMRC online software or they are ignoring it this year. (Whenever I went back to edit my SA it still had the figure I originally put in).

I thought it a bit strange - anyone else noticed this yet?

Somebody has posted the same on PCg forums, they say "I printed it off and rang the help desk who informed me that there was a known bug in the HTML printing function for the 'Service Company' question and that this was probably going to be fixed 'in a few weeks' and that the data was 'probably' present in the submitted form itself."

[Ravello]

Not sure about the printed copy of the pdf, but on my electronic version the figure for "income derived through services company" is populated (i.e. doesn't disappear).

As an aside, regarding the debate as to whether the box should be completed at all it would appear that SJD (my appointed tax advisors) have deemed it appropriate to do so.

[Lewis]

Not sure about the printed copy of the pdf, but on my electronic version the figure for "income derived through services company" is populated (i.e. doesn't disappear).

As an aside, regarding the debate as to whether the box should be completed at all it would appear that SJD (my appointed tax advisors) have deemed it appropriate to do so.

Correct me if I am wrong but presumably they said you were a service company on the P35 (it seems a lot of accountants did this) so now they have no choice but to continue down that path and fill in the box on the return. Whereas a lot of us answered no to the service company question on the P35 following advice at the time by ICAEW.

[QwertyBerty]

Correct me if I am wrong but presumably they said you were a service company on the P35 (it seems a lot of accountants did this) so now they have no choice but to continue down that path and fill in the box on the return. Whereas a lot of us answered no to the service company question on the P35 following advice at the time by ICAEW.

But due to HMRC wording for the P35 questions, you could say you filled it in wrong (and here HMRC have said there's no need to make a correction) and therefore complete the SA in a contradictory manner.

QB.