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4-month old ltd co. No salary yet. Contract from Nov 07. Do I have to submit a P35?

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    4-month old ltd co. No salary yet. Contract from Nov 07. Do I have to submit a P35?

    A P35 is a PAYE statement. But if I have no employees and am not paying myself a salary yet then do I have to fill in one?
    I have paid myself a small divi in Dec 07.

    #2
    Phone HMRC and ask. I'd suspect that you will have to even if it is a "null" return.

    Just to say that you owe nothing.

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      #3
      Danbro Accounting Ltd

      HI,

      Initially you need to find out if you registered for PAYE, if your accountant set your company up fully I suspect that you will be registered for PAYE.

      If so then you still need to prepare a NIL return, you cant file nil returns online so you need to file a paper one, just write NIL in big letters and complete the decleration and send in.

      Maybe consider speaking to your accountant as it maybe beneficial to pay a small salary to utilise your personal allowance

      Thanks

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        #4
        Originally posted by Danbro View Post
        HI,

        Initially you need to find out if you registered for PAYE, if your accountant set your company up fully I suspect that you will be registered for PAYE.

        If so then you still need to prepare a NIL return, you cant file nil returns online so you need to file a paper one, just write NIL in big letters and complete the decleration and send in.

        Maybe consider speaking to your accountant as it maybe beneficial to pay a small salary to utilise your personal allowance

        Thanks
        He can utilize his personal allowance without a formal salary. Just take out the 5k or so as a directors fee. I'm sure his accountant will do this.

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          #5
          Originally posted by Sockpuppet View Post
          Phone HMRC and ask. I'd suspect that you will have to even if it is a "null" return.

          Just to say that you owe nothing.
          Well I called up the HMRC and they said that as I am not paying myself a salary (which I'm not) I don't need to "register as an employer".

          So following on from that I presume I don't need to complete form P35 because it is the "Employers Annual Return" and how can you have that if you are not an employer?

          So I don't have to answer the dreaded question 6. Have I got around IR35?

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            #6
            Originally posted by KentPhilip View Post
            So I don't have to answer the dreaded question 6. Have I got around IR35?




            Not quite...

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              #7
              Originally posted by Sockpuppet View Post




              Not quite...
              I'll take that as a no then

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                #8
                Originally posted by KentPhilip View Post
                Have I got around IR35?
                CUK equivalent to viz letters' "Do I wn £5?"
                "Experience hath shewn, that even under the best forms of government those entrusted with power have, in time, and by slow operations, perverted it into tyranny. "


                Thomas Jefferson

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