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    Income Shifting

    Income shifting

    The Government recognises the contribution that small businesses make to the economy and that business owners should profit from the success of their business. However, the Government believes it is unfair for one person to arrange their affairs so that their income is diverted to a second person, subject to a lower tax rate, to obtain a tax advantage (income shifting). The vast majority of individuals cannot shift their income and income shifting runs counter to the principle of independent taxation.
    The Government will be consulting, shortly after the Pre-Budget Report, on draft legislation to take effect from 2008-09 to address income shifting. The legislation will work alongside the existing rules on businesses deductions and settlements, and will seek to remove the tax advantage obtained from income shifting. It would only apply when the income is in the form of distributions from a company (dividends) or partnership profits. Income from employment, interest on savings and any other source will not be affected.
    HMRC will draw on the wide range of commercial experience available across the advisory community in framing practical guidance that minimises burdens, and makes it as easy as possible for individuals to understand their position. Relevant factors to consider when establishing whether or not income shifting has taken place could include the work done by the individuals in the business, the investments made and the risks to which they are subject through the business.
    Cenedl heb iaith, cenedl heb galon

    #2
    so, let me get this straight.

    As it stands at the moment IS [ income shifting ] is used in order to not breach the £38k threashold where you start paying tax on the dividend you recieve of about 22%.

    So if you have a HI [ her-indoors ] non-working shareholder, you can make them an employee of the company, & pay minimum wage instead as a "admin assistant" ?

    That way with the £38k + £6 allowance, you can still take home £44k or about 3.5k per month without being any worse off ?
    Cenedl heb iaith, cenedl heb galon

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      #3
      Originally posted by Bluebird View Post
      so, let me get this straight.

      As it stands at the moment IS [ income shifting ] is used in order to not breach the £38k threashold where you start paying tax on the dividend you recieve of about 22%.

      So if you have a HI [ her-indoors ] non-working shareholder, you can make them an employee of the company, & pay minimum wage instead as a "admin assistant" ?

      That way with the £38k + £6 allowance, you can still take home £44k or about 3.5k per month without being any worse off ?

      So basically the Mrs. will have to give me her shares back. This will cost me about £7,500 a year in paying out her dividends to me (£30k * 25%). This is on top of the £2,500 a year that the 3% increase in CT is costing me.

      On the bright side, she's at least allowed to stay as an employee on £5k/year, which saves me £1k in CT and £1,250 in Income Tax.

      The timeframe is distressingly short: the current, 2007/8 tax year, is the last that we'll be able to do it

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        #4
        So the fact that my HI is the company secretary and takes a wage from the company and we split the dividends down the middle (50/50 share split) am I right in thinking this won't effect us

        Why would she have to give her share back

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          #5
          Originally posted by MikeC1408 View Post
          So the fact that my HI is the company secretary and takes a wage from the company and we split the dividends down the middle (50/50 share split) am I right in thinking this won't effect us

          Why would she have to give her share back
          of course it will affect you. You are the number one target. She doesn't do anything, she can't code, she's just paid by you to avoid taxes. There is no other reason.

          You don't HAVE TO give the shares back, but if you don't YOU will pay personal tax on the dividends. Dividend payments to people not contributing to the business will be taxed at the contributor's rate.

          So you might as well give the shares back, the effect will be just the same.

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            #6
            Originally posted by dude69 View Post
            of course it will affect you. You are the number one target. She doesn't do anything, she can't code, she's just paid by you to avoid taxes. There is no other reason.

            You don't HAVE TO give the shares back, but if you don't YOU will pay personal tax on the dividends. Dividend payments to people not contributing to the business will be taxed at the contributor's rate.

            So you might as well give the shares back, the effect will be just the same.
            She does the paperwork for the accountant, Invoicing etc......

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              #7
              Does this mean that you can pay a salary though or does that have to be commensurate with the work she does?

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                #8
                Originally posted by Hiram King Of Tyre View Post
                Does this mean that you can pay a salary though or does that have to be commensurate with the work she does?
                I believe it must be commensurate. Pay to much and they will argue it is not in the interest of the company and disallow it. I was even advised paying HI £5K per year for book keeping was too much. In the end I worked out the exact time taken for her work and paid her the going rate (taken from job sites)

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                  #9
                  Originally posted by Lewis View Post
                  I believe it must be commensurate. Pay to much and they will argue it is not in the interest of the company and disallow it. I was even advised paying HI £5K per year for book keeping was too much. In the end I worked out the exact time taken for her work and paid her the going rate (taken from job sites)
                  So if her pay is in-line with the work she does she can then take a split of the dividends without us being accused of Income-Shifting

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                    #10
                    Originally posted by MikeC1408 View Post
                    So if her pay is in-line with the work she does she can then take a split of the dividends without us being accused of Income-Shifting
                    No, the income is not being earned for her pushing paper around, the income is earned from your coding. Without you, she has no job. She could be replaced with a part-time book keeper on £5k/year, but they would not be given a 50% shareholding !

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