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Originally posted by cyborg1337 View PostI feel like you get my point; but won't admit. No hard feelings.
I'm prepared to own and pay for my mistakes, it just bothers me that companies get away so easily (well let's see what happens).
Let me repeat my first question:-
Did you get an outside professional (say QDOS) to check that your contract was actually outside IR35 or did you just take the agency's word for it. I won't even ask about my second working conditions part.merely at clientco for the entertainmentComment
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Originally posted by eek View PostAll those solutions require a sensible debate and HMRC know that that is never going to occur....Comment
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Originally posted by jamesbrown View PostRight, the UK is thick-as-mince in this area of policy, as in some others. Our civil service just doesn't understand the sunk cost fallacy and prefer to double down on thick-as-mince.
This is the first time since 2005 when such a Government has existed - and sadly I think there are more pressing issues...merely at clientco for the entertainmentComment
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Originally posted by eek View PostNo I don't get your point - as I don't think you did anything to confirm what the agent said was correct.,
Let me repeat my first question:-
Did you get an outside professional (say QDOS) to check that your contract was actually outside IR35 or did you just take the agency's word for it. I won't even ask about my second working conditions part.Comment
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Originally posted by eek View PostThere isn't actually that many times when you can start to implement the fundamental changes that are required. It requires a new Government with a large majority for it to occur.
And this is the first time since 2005 when such a Government has existed - sadly I think there are more pressing issues...Comment
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Originally posted by jamesbrown View PostThere are degrees of change. Addressing the imbalances between employment and tax law is a fundamental change that would require a massive majority and a gov't focused on that (if that's what you mean, I agree). Pushing through something akin to look-through for close company directors is a tax change and comparatively easy. There are ways to increase taxes on close company directors that don't look anything like IR35 (and are much better, more equitable), even if they are papering over the employment law/tax law imbalance.
One deserves very different rules to the other yet both are close companies.Last edited by eek; 23 February 2020, 16:39.merely at clientco for the entertainmentComment
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Originally posted by cyborg1337 View PostYes not just the agencies word; I used QDOS to confirm it was outside.merely at clientco for the entertainmentComment
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Originally posted by eek View PostI'm not sure that's an option - it's one thing to attack a company that has zero capital and is really a labour enterprise (as contracting is) and another to use the same rules for a close company like my new one (£150,000 capital ignoring 9 months of my time (completely unpaid) which would otherwise have been another £120,000).
One deserves very different rules to the other yet both are close companies.Comment
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Originally posted by eek View PostIn which case you would know the importance of your working practices and you failed to follow QDOS's advice...
On the most part I operated as outside IR35, which in the end resulted in my contract being ended.
And they are getting away it. Also they really need to train up their incompetent staff on dealing with outside IR35 contractors.Comment
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