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IR35 letters going out to GlaxoSmithKline contractors
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Originally posted by northernladuk View PostYup. Type in contractor GSK in linked in and the first raft of people that come up are minimum 2 years, a few have 4 years under their belt.Comment
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Originally posted by BrilloPad View PostJust went to lunch with a m8 who has a m8 at GSK. Reckons alot of contractors there are disguised employees who have been there for years.
But not to worry for the ones with IR35 insurance.
You could have someone who's been at the same place 10 years "outside IR35" and someone who's been there 3 months inside.
All that happens if you keep renewing your contract for years on end, is that you are exposing yourself to a massive bill if you're found to be inside.Comment
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Originally posted by BABABlackSheep View PostIt doesn't matter how long you are at the same organisation. Its all about your contract and your working practices. A lot of people mistakenly think the 2-year expenses rule is somehow IR35 related..its not.
You could have someone who's been at the same place 10 years "outside IR35" and someone who's been there 3 months inside.
All that happens if you keep renewing your contract for years on end, is that you are exposing yourself to a massive bill if you're found to be inside.Comment
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Originally posted by jamesbrown View PostLargely agree, but you need to be very vigilant and collect evidence of ongoing status if you’re with a client for a long period. The risk, of course, is that you become part of the furniture and begin to act like a permie. But, yes, a temp covering a permie for a couple of months can be emphatically inside, just as a multi-year infrastructure contract for deliverables can have no D&C, MoO and support a valid RoS, so duration is a very weak indicator.
We've a raft of posts on here with long term contractors not having a clue about Ir35 and we are going to see a hell of a lot more with GSK and others.'CUK forum personality of 2011 - Winner - Yes really!!!!Comment
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Originally posted by northernladuk View PostTotally agree. Technically correct but a very naive view. Remeber we have case law in this area. Jlj was a partial loss because the length of time he was there eroded his position.
We've a raft of posts on here with long term contractors not having a clue about Ir35 and we are going to see a hell of a lot more with GSK and others.
Taken advice a number of times regarding contracts and always advised its purely contract and working practices.
Was Jlj in the same location and contract? I'll look it up now you've mentioned it(so thank you), but thought you might have the facts to hand.Comment
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Originally posted by BABABlackSheep View PostIt doesn't matter how long you are at the same organisation. Its all about your contract and your working practices. A lot of people mistakenly think the 2-year expenses rule is somehow IR35 related..its not.
You could have someone who's been at the same place 10 years "outside IR35" and someone who's been there 3 months inside.
All that happens if you keep renewing your contract for years on end, is that you are exposing yourself to a massive bill if you're found to be inside.Make Mercia Great Again!Comment
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I've honestly never understood those contractors who stay at the same client for years on end. With contracting, part of the draw for me is moving on fairly frequently. Longest I've spent at one client I think is 16 months...If you don't have anything nice to say, say it sarcasticallyComment
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Originally posted by BABABlackSheep View PostAs you can guess I'm a long term contractor and in the same organisation. Multiple locations and multiple contracts in different teams though.
Taken advice a number of times regarding contracts and always advised its purely contract and working practices.
Was Jlj in the same location and contract? I'll look it up now you've mentioned it(so thank you), but thought you might have the facts to hand.Comment
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Originally posted by KinooOrKinog View PostI've honestly never understood those contractors who stay at the same client for years on end. With contracting, part of the draw for me is moving on fairly frequently. Longest I've spent at one client I think is 16 months...Comment
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