IR35 Shuttle Bus

[northernladuk]

Both cases uphold my opinion that the ET is an effective weapon against IR35 and now CEST.

Psychocandy tugs one off in the disabled bogs at his client twice a week and hasn't lost an IR35 case yet so that appears to be an effective weapon, even if his weapon isn't very effective. Maybe you should have tried that first? Would have been a lot cheaper.

[Old Greg]

my contention is that you cannot be an employee for tax purposes and not an employee for employment benefits as there is no case law to support this or the reverse.

As you say, there is nothing to support this contention, except the ramblings of someone who ignores his barrister's advice.

[mudskipper]

I love you, Old Greg.

[Old Greg]

I love you, Old Greg.

I'm da man.

[JohntheBike]

Psychocandy tugs one off in the disabled bogs at his client twice a week and hasn't lost an IR35 case yet so that appears to be an effective weapon, even if his weapon isn't very effective. Maybe you should have tried that first? Would have been a lot cheaper.

well, until I lost my ET case, I didn't know that HMRC were intending to investigate me under IR35. I obtained the info under the DPA as a result of a very different investigation from HMRC. In essence I was making it very difficult for HMRC to continue the investigation and was entirely successful in that venture. It pays to be difficult and stand your ground, as long as you know you haven't done anything illegal or questionable, which I hadn't. They tried to bully me, but second prize they had. However, I was so incensed by the whole issue of IR35 and HP's approach to me that I felt I had to do something to attack it. And as I've said, some critics in another place, who continue to "talk" a good campaign, were in short pants when I was fighting my case.

[JohntheBike]

As you say, there is nothing to support this contention, except the ramblings of someone who ignores his barrister's advice.

as I hope you will see in the account I've sent you, I ignored a barrister's advice with a good result!

[mudskipper]

Who's going to point it out? Anyone?

[Old Greg]

as I hope you will see in the account I've sent you, I ignored a barrister's advice with a good result!

Did you win or lose the case?

[JohntheBike]

Did you win or lose the case?

I lost, which is exactly what I was intending to do and when you eventually read my account, you may begin to understand this. The issue with the barrister is contained in the account.

[mudskipper]

I lost, which is exactly what I was intending to do and when you eventually read my account, you may begin to understand this. The issue with the barrister is contained in the account.

Who's going to point it out? Anyone?

Just out of interest, John - did you for a moment wonder if that might not be Old Greg's real email address?

If he had given you reportIR35@hmrc.gov.uk, would you have sent your account there?