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End client wants my passport, cv and police record one month in

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    #11
    That's minor compared to IB checks.

    For any large client, the absolute minimum I expect to be asked for is:
    Certificate of Incorporation (proof of Ltd)
    VAT certificate (proof of VAT number, i.e. eligibility to add VAT to myco invoices)
    Proof of who I am (usually asked for passport or driver licence/birth certificate combo)
    Proof of company insurance

    It proves who I am personally, that I am running a limited company that is allowed to charge VAT and that I'm insured to be on site.

    I'd expect no less and consider it due diligence on behalf of the client and/or agency.

    How the hell you got in without a cv I don't know. That said, they'll probably now use that to pursue references at old clients to prove that you were there.
    The greatest trick the devil ever pulled was convincing the world that he didn't exist

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      #12
      Originally posted by LondonManc View Post
      That's minor compared to IB checks.

      For any large client, the absolute minimum I expect to be asked for is:
      Certificate of Incorporation (proof of Ltd)
      VAT certificate (proof of VAT number, i.e. eligibility to add VAT to myco invoices)
      Proof of who I am (usually asked for passport or driver licence/birth certificate combo)
      Proof of company insurance

      It proves who I am personally, that I am running a limited company that is allowed to charge VAT and that I'm insured to be on site.

      I'd expect no less and consider it due diligence on behalf of the client and/or agency.

      How the hell you got in without a cv I don't know. That said, they'll probably now use that to pursue references at old clients to prove that you were there.
      I agree that this goes on, but only items 1,2 & 4 are of any relevance to the client co as those documents are for your co. with whom the client has the contract (possibly via the 3rd party agency).

      The client co. really has no business expecting to see any documentation that is specific to you personally, as it's expected that your co. will not be sending along consultants who are ineligible to work in the UK (for example). It's certainly your co's responsibility for that as you're an employee of your co and not of client co.

      Do they insist on the postman's passport/birth certificate before he's allowed to deliver the mail? The guy who comes in to clear the paper jam in the photocopier? No, I'll bet they don't.

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        #13
        Originally posted by billybiro View Post
        I agree that this goes on, but only items 1,2 & 4 are of any relevance to the client co as those documents are for your co. with whom the client has the contract (possibly via the 3rd party agency).

        The client co. really has no business expecting to see any documentation that is specific to you personally, as it's expected that your co. will not be sending along consultants who are ineligible to work in the UK (for example). It's certainly your co's responsibility for that as you're an employee of your co and not of client co.

        Do they insist on the postman's passport/birth certificate before he's allowed to deliver the mail? The guy who comes in to clear the paper jam in the photocopier? No, I'll bet they don't.
        Doesn't work like that.

        The postman and photocopier guy are on site for a couple of hours in a month time period, you are on-site for the majority of the time so by law they gave to tick boxes or face fines.
        "You’re just a bad memory who doesn’t know when to go away" JR

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          #14
          Originally posted by billybiro View Post
          I agree that this goes on, but only items 1,2 & 4 are of any relevance to the client co as those documents are for your co. with whom the client has the contract (possibly via the 3rd party agency).

          The client co. really has no business expecting to see any documentation that is specific to you personally, as it's expected that your co. will not be sending along consultants who are ineligible to work in the UK (for example). It's certainly your co's responsibility for that as you're an employee of your co and not of client co.

          Do they insist on the postman's passport/birth certificate before he's allowed to deliver the mail? The guy who comes in to clear the paper jam in the photocopier? No, I'll bet they don't.
          As we have discussed before, this is all fine in theory.
          However, as a one man band, you won't get onsite at an IB without providing a copy of your passport, to the agency, the screening process specifically asks for it.
          As a contractor employed directly by a consultancy supplier you can get onsite without, which aligns with what you stated above.
          Yes, we get treated differently, can we do anything about it...........I doubt it.

          It has always been this way and I have contracted for a number of IBs over the years.
          Fresh in my mind as I'm just going in "direct" (have to use in house agency) at an IB and doing the screening now.
          The Chunt of Chunts.

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            #15
            Originally posted by billybiro View Post
            I agree that this goes on, but only items 1,2 & 4 are of any relevance to the client co as those documents are for your co. with whom the client has the contract (possibly via the 3rd party agency).

            The client co. really has no business expecting to see any documentation that is specific to you personally, as it's expected that your co. will not be sending along consultants who are ineligible to work in the UK (for example). It's certainly your co's responsibility for that as you're an employee of your co and not of client co.

            Do they insist on the postman's passport/birth certificate before he's allowed to deliver the mail? The guy who comes in to clear the paper jam in the photocopier? No, I'll bet they don't.
            Well, technically it was the onsite agency that asked for them - while a consultancy like Accenture may certify who they're putting on site, it's arguably in the agent's interests even more than the client's that you're eligible to work or the contract gets canned and they get dumped off the PSL for potential reputational damage.

            The flip side is that client co generally doesn't interview the whole Accenture team before letting them on site either do they?
            The greatest trick the devil ever pulled was convincing the world that he didn't exist

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              #16
              Agree that all are often required at an IB and often they want CRB check and will do a search for any CCJ's against both your and you personally! In the case of banks it is not just the fact that you are who you and your are and eligible to work here and bill them - it' also about protecting their clients from fraudulent behaviour and people who have criminal records or CCJ's are considered a high risk! Had to terminate someone for the CCJ issue about 7 years ago and the poor sod only had a petty default on a mobile phone contract!

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                #17
                Personally I can't see what the problem is supplying the requested information?

                It's pretty standard for every role I have taken over the past?
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                  #18
                  Originally posted by Scruff View Post
                  Personally I can't see what the problem is supplying the requested information?

                  It's pretty standard for every role I have taken over the past?
                  Agreed and what is usually funny is everyone who questions whether it's necessary, says they wouldn't do it etc. Never have and probably never will go for an IB role
                  The Chunt of Chunts.

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                    #19
                    Originally posted by northernladuk View Post
                    It's nothing to do with how good you are and it's not pointless paperwork. Agencies are required to provide report certain things and there is clampdown going on at the moment so I'm surprised there hasn't been a raft of these recently.

                    Penalties now automatic for employment intermediaries - Contractor Weekly
                    The police record and CV aren't legal requirements.

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                      #20
                      Originally posted by stek View Post
                      Thought your client was in Belgium?
                      Yes

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