24 month rule - This is different!

[pr1]

Ok... I use NW as my accountants so I will just have to use the rolling windows approach. Not going against my accountants advice.

I would choose option A and just stop claiming...

in PC's case, that could be a £2000 decision, I hope NW are right!

[psychocandy]

Quote from the HMRC



So you can carry on claiming... You haven't had a 24 month stint at location A yet...

EDIT: Yet the Nixon Williams website says its a rolling window.... So who knows...

24 Month Rule for Tax Free Travel Expenses Relief | Nixon Williams

My point EXACTLY. Its vague.

My accountants are NW. They've said, 3 at A, 8 at B, 12 at A = stop claiming. Because at that point in the past 24 months more than 40% at location A.

But as you say its arguable IMHO.

[psychocandy]

in PC's case, that could be a £2000 decision, I hope NW are right!

Don;t get me wrong NW are brilliant as is my accountant. Couldnt be happier. BUT they need to take the cautious approach.

If they don't and it ends up wrong, they get it in the neck from a multitude of clients when HMRC come calling. So, be mega cautious and save yourself the grief. After all, its not their £2000 either.

[psychocandy]

3+8+12=23

Yes but after 12 months completed you're about to accept an extension to 15 months, so 3+12+15.
18/26 months at location A so more than 40%.

Still not a total of 24 at location A but more than 40%.

[dx4100]

My point EXACTLY. Its vague.

My accountants are NW. They've said, 3 at A, 8 at B, 12 at A = stop claiming. Because at that point in the past 24 months more than 40% at location A.

But as you say its arguable IMHO.

It baffles me how some posters here scream until they are red in the face that it is really simple when it is clearly confusing

[psychocandy]

Personally I'd say the rules are sufficiently vague that I'd reset the clock and go up to 24months at A in stint 2 (but would be prepared to pay up if proven otherwise). I don't think they could put a penalty on it as it is quite subjective so it's only interest (which is very low) that you'd end up losing out on, and that's IF it gets picked up - others' views may vary!

Me too. I expect grief though ;-)

£2000 now. Or slim chance of £2000+interest. Even assuming HMRC pick it up, I still think there is sufficient greyness for me to be right anyway. What I dont want to do is to be deemed to be taking the piss.

Personally, also, in my mind, what I'm doing and interpreting is reasonable. The rule is there to prevent deliberate short breaks reseting the clock.

The fact that it was a short gig, followed by a much longer did, if you're being sensible, should reset the clock.

[psychocandy]

It baffles me how some posters here scream until they are red in the face that it is really simple when it is clearly confusing

Yep none of the regulars who have shouted me down and said its simple and you're stupid have commented on my situation.

Because they dont want to be shown to be wrong in case it is.

[pr1]

Me too. I expect grief though ;-)

£2000 now. Or slim chance of £2000+interest. Even assuming HMRC pick it up, I still think there is sufficient greyness for me to be right anyway. What I dont want to do is to be deemed to be taking the piss.

Personally, also, in my mind, what I'm doing and interpreting is reasonable. The rule is there to prevent deliberate short breaks reseting the clock.

The fact that it was a short gig, followed by a much longer did, if you're being sensible, should reset the clock.

As long as you stop at 24 months in stint 2 (assuming you're staying there for a while) you'll be doing it more to the book than most - there's people who work in zone 1 in London for 15 years and keep claiming it

[dx4100]

As long as you stop at 24 months in stint 2 (assuming you're staying there for a while) you'll be doing it more to the book than most - there's people who work in zone 1 in London for 15 years and keep claiming it

WOW, That is a LOT of pain if ever caught...

[psychocandy]

As long as you stop at 24 months in stint 2 (assuming you're staying there for a while) you'll be doing it more to the book than most - there's people who work in zone 1 in London for 15 years and keep claiming it

Thats one plan. One way to think of it - like you say.