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    #11
    Originally posted by northernladuk View Post
    Probably bollocks as already pointed out. This is extremely short sighted and hardly a good business model when you are trying to be top of your profession. Their income stream is still fairly well protected as its highly likely they will be able to provide the replacement.... Unless they are caught buggering about with notice periods and the client goes elsewhere.
    Since when do agencies care about being "top of their profession". And they're business model involves doing what they can to ensure their income stream is protected and maximised.

    Yes its a risk buggering about like this but agents know what they're doing and seem confident in their ability to blag out of it. And anyway, we always harp on that contract is contractor-agency and agency-client so any party can add or decline any clause in their relevant contract.

    Just because client says 3 months, 1 week notice, does not mean that agency had to offer identical terms to contractor in THEIR contract. If they choose to do it differently then so be it.
    Rhyddid i lofnod psychocandy!!!!

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      #12
      Originally posted by psychocandy View Post
      Seen it. And why not?

      So client says to Hays - Tell you what we dont mind if you let contractors have one week notice.

      Hays do what they did here and tell contractor no notice. One less thing that is going to the money rolling in (i.e. contractor giving notice). Might not be so easy to toss and replace contractor if he leaves - if there are agencies in on the pie.

      Contractor is never going to find out unless they have specific discussion with client.
      And the chances of mentioning notice period to the client is going to be pretty high so gonna be a double barrel to the foot if the agent is relying on the client not finding out.

      Also, a year long with no notice gig. Is hardly going to pick the cream of the crop. It will also mean the contractor will be happy to screw the client over as they probably feel they are being screwed.. None of this is good for the client who is paying good money. Hays wouldn't be with them long if they were supplying second rate contractors because of selfish terms. It's just not good business.

      Your agent hate us blinding you.
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        #13
        Originally posted by psychocandy View Post
        Since when do agencies care about being "top of their profession". And they're business model involves doing what they can to ensure their income stream is protected and maximised.

        Yes its a risk buggering about like this but agents know what they're doing and seem confident in their ability to blag out of it. And anyway, we always harp on that contract is contractor-agency and agency-client so any party can add or decline any clause in their relevant contract.

        Just because client says 3 months, 1 week notice, does not mean that agency had to offer identical terms to contractor in THEIR contract. If they choose to do it differently then so be it.
        It's impossible to argue with this crap so I'm done.
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          #14
          Originally posted by northernladuk View Post
          It's impossible to argue with this crap so I'm done.
          if only

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            #15
            Originally posted by pr1 View Post
            if only
            Why not post your opinions on the matter rather than adding the most pointless post on the thread so far?
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              #16
              Originally posted by northernladuk View Post
              Why not post your opinions on the matter rather than adding the most pointless post on the thread so far?
              Dare I say it that other cant be arsed to disagree with you because all you get is grief off you in return???
              Rhyddid i lofnod psychocandy!!!!

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                #17
                Originally posted by psychocandy View Post
                Dare I say it that other cant be arsed to disagree with you because all you get is grief off you in return???
                Depends if they are going to put a reasoned statement together so we can have a hearty debate about it or just post some random brain fart.
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                  #18
                  Thanks for the advice guys. In all fairness it's not a bad contract, pay is decent and it's local to me.

                  I guess if all contracts with large clients are no notice and they won't negotiate on any terms, then what other choice is there.

                  Public sector always seems a bit more flexible but I wonder if people will want to work there with the proposed legislation.

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                    #19
                    Originally posted by Nibbles84 View Post
                    Thanks for the advice guys. In all fairness it's not a bad contract, pay is decent and it's local to me.

                    I guess if all contracts with large clients are no notice and they won't negotiate on any terms, then what other choice is there.

                    Public sector always seems a bit more flexible but I wonder if people will want to work there with the proposed legislation.
                    So what's happened with your situation? Has anything moved?
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                      #20
                      Tried to get notice period, they originally said it was a reasonable request that they thought would be accommodated and they'd contact the client. Chased again and said they wouldn't accommodate it. Asked if they'd drop the term to a few months and roll it, so awaiting a reply.

                      Client said that providing a substitute was a best way out, but I might be able to get the client to push it with them.

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