Start-up costs.

[stek]

Oh I have and nowhere is it as blunt as the poster says it is. It is correctly clarified further in the thread. I should read the whole thing really.

Blunt? WTF are you on about - I said 'generally', that doesn't mean absolutely 100% not allowed.

[stek]

1. you have previous skills in that area even if it's a GCSE or some other tulipty certificate
2. your current client requires those skills.

+1

I've just expensed a set of Cisco online training courses, because my client needs someone to do the VPN/FW/Switch stuff and there is no-one else. Mind you it cost £79 off Groupon so it might be utter pants even though it said 93% off or something....

[northernladuk]

+1

I've just expensed a set of Cisco online training courses, because my client needs someone to do the VPN/FW/Switch stuff and there is no-one else. Mind you it cost £79 off Groupon so it might be utter pants even though it said 93% off or something....

Hmm. Not so sure about that. Surely it should that would come under new skills. I dont remember the guidance saying anything about the client. It's about the skills to deliver what you are doing. You could be a coder and the client needs a manager so you could argue an MBA is required but that's a different skillet to yours.

I think looking at it from the perspective of the client is wrong and can flag up false positives. That particular example 'might' work (but i doubt it) but the rule of using the client as justification I think is not right.

In your example (not knowing what you already do) giving you new skills that you can bill for is a pretty clear example of what is not allowed.

At end of the day though expense what you want if you are prepared to argue it.

[stek]

Hmm. Not so sure about that. Surely it should that would come under new skills. I dont remember the guidance saying anything about the client. It's about the skills to deliver what you are doing. You could be a coder and the client needs a manager so you could argue an MBA is required but that's a different skillet to yours.

I think looking at it from the perspective of the client is wrong and can flag up false positives. That particular example 'might' work (but i doubt it) but the rule of using the client as justification I think is not right.

In your example (not knowing what you already do) giving you new skills that you can bill for is a pretty clear example of what is not allowed.

At end of the day though expense what you want if you are prepared to argue it.

I do mainly Unix and Unix virtualisation, but this role is to build totally new environments, including the network etc so they are not far apart, one needs to understand vlans, NAT/PAT etc so it's an extension of what I do, not a complete new direction (hence my shed load of recent questions in Tech forum), at the end of the day it's only £79, if it goes wrong I'll stump up but I doubt it'll even get noticed, I've expensed more than that on an Evening Meal when I did a few days in CH....

[northernladuk]

Yep. You know your stuff so am sure you've got it covered. Just commenting on the way your original one read and not agreeing with the ' what the client needs' line.

[mudskipper]

Yes, it's a director's loan. And it is worth paying for stuff (accountancy, IPSE, laptop, stationery etc) before you register for VAT (assuming you go onto the FRS) as you can then claim back the VAT when you do register.

[SueEllen]

I do mainly Unix and Unix virtualisation, but this role is to build totally new environments, including the network etc so they are not far apart, one needs to understand vlans, NAT/PAT etc so it's an extension of what I do, not a complete new direction (hence my shed load of recent questions in Tech forum), at the end of the day it's only £79, if it goes wrong I'll stump up but I doubt it'll even get noticed, I've expensed more than that on an Evening Meal when I did a few days in CH....

You need to explain it in an abbreviated form of this then the fact your current client requires it.

Not that your client requires the skill first.

There is a subtle difference.

[Beatrix Kiddo]

Yes, it's a director's loan. And it is worth paying for stuff (accountancy, IPSE, laptop, stationery etc) before you register for VAT (assuming you go onto the FRS) as you can then claim back the VAT when you do register.

Cool, thanks. (Also thanks for telling me the terminology- I'll do a search on director's loan.)