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IR35 Update following discussion group yesterday - survey request

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    I am putting together a list of things that your contract rates have to provide for - have I missed anything?

    i. Additional National Insurance Contributions
    ii. Periods where the contractor has no work available to them
    iii. Periods of sickness when they are unable to work
    iv. Periods when they may have suffered injury and are unable to work
    v. Periods when they are on holiday
    vi. Contributions to a pension scheme (as they are not eligible under auto-enrolment rules)
    vii. Maternity pay for the first six weeks
    viii. Being released early from a contract with no warning and no financial redress
    ix. Accountancy fees
    x. Insurance costs
    xi. Training costs
    xii. Legal costs
    xiii. Promotion costs

    And this is the stuff you don't get:

    i. Free or subsidised Private Health Care
    ii. Partial or non-contributory pension scheme
    iii. Company Car (there will be a BIK attached to this obviously)
    iv. Free or subsidised gym or sports club membership.
    v. Interest free Season ticket loans
    vi. Relocation packages
    vii. Full maternity/paternity pay
    viii. Maternity, paternity and shared parental leave above the Statutory minimum
    ix. Training courses
    x. Long service pay awards
    xi. Redundancy pay
    xii. Childcare vouchers

    Again - have I missed anything?
    Last edited by LisaContractorUmbrella; 25 September 2015, 13:16.
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      What about things like equipment and software?

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        Originally posted by LisaContractorUmbrella View Post
        According to the response on the Dividend Tax petition the changes are netting the Government £500 million
        remember IR35 (loss of) income is from disguised employees only - dividend tax change hits a lot more than that (i.e. all shareholders of all businesses)

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          Originally posted by LisaContractorUmbrella View Post
          I am putting together a list of things that your contract rates have to provide for - have I missed anything?

          i. Additional National Insurance Contributions
          ii. Periods where the contractor has no work available to them
          iii. Periods of sickness when they are unable to work
          iv. Periods when they may have suffered injury and are unable to work
          v. Periods when they are on holiday
          vi. Contributions to a pension scheme (as they are not eligible under auto-enrolment rules)
          vii. Maternity pay for the first six weeks
          viii. Being released early from a contract with no warning and no financial redress
          ix. Accountancy fees
          x. Insurance costs
          xi. Training costs
          xii. Legal costs
          xiii. Promotion costs

          And this is the stuff you don't get:

          i. Free or subsidised Private Health Care
          ii. Partial or non-contributory pension scheme
          iii. Company Car (there will be a BIK attached to this obviously)
          iv. Free or subsidised gym or sports club membership.
          v. Interest free Season ticket loans
          vi. Relocation packages
          vii. Full maternity/paternity pay
          viii. Maternity, paternity and shared parental leave above the Statutory minimum
          ix. Training courses
          x. Long service pay awards
          xi. Redundancy pay
          xii. Childcare vouchers

          Again - have I missed anything?
          What about little things like computer equipment, mobile phone etc.

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            Originally posted by LisaContractorUmbrella View Post
            Again - have I missed anything?
            Mobile phone
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                Additional to your list.

                Things I don't get:
                When I was permie I was in an Employee Share Ownership plan.
                Could eat at company canteen.
                Relevant Life Plan.

                Have to buy:
                - computer, printer, fax, copier
                - mobile phone
                - business telephone / Internet
                - virus software
                - misc other software
                - business cards / stationery (maybe that's under "promotion")

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                  This is really cheeky but I don't suppose anyone has the time (or inclination) to attach any kind of monetary figure to these costs/lost benefits?
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                    I'm spending about £800 / year on landline phone/Internet.

                    I budget £3K a year for computer hardware, but I'm buying more hardware than just mine, someone else might be £1K a year or less.

                    I guess you could use £100-200 year for software. That's going to vary widely. Some will spend almost nothing.

                    I'm around £200 / year for promotion.

                    For just my phone, £30 / month.

                    The employee share ownership plan I used to be in was probably worth an average £5K / year.

                    I'm probably older than most here so someone else should put a value on Relevant Life Plan and private health insurance.

                    I'm paying £1K a year accountancy fees. Others whose business is simpler than mine are probably paying less.

                    I get multiple small contracts not all of which I have reviewed for IR35 (anything less than two months isn't worth it). If the average guy has a contract every six months and has QDOS review them, he's spending £200 / year on legal costs.

                    My insurance needs are different, someone else should answer that.

                    Gym cost is £30 / month. I'm still an out of shape slob, but at least I feel good about trying twice a week.

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                      Originally posted by LisaContractorUmbrella View Post
                      This is really cheeky but I don't suppose anyone has the time (or inclination) to attach any kind of monetary figure to these costs/lost benefits?
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