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    #11
    Moreover, there were no emails asking me why we slipped etc. Its a shock to know their actual intentions when I received this email from my agency alleging I missed the deliverables.

    Even now, there is no dispute or greivance or allegation put to me directly on my work email id.

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      #12
      Originally posted by andy12345 View Post
      The design document was complete by October and the end client (C) also signed it off. So, all happy at this end. Then the development phase and mentoring phase started. The rest of the team is off-shore. So, had a quite bit of mentoring to do to explain the design and enable them to do the development.

      This is where the grey area starts. They assumed the development work will be done by so and so date and it slipped. They are pinning the deliverables on me, now. I never gave false status updates. Whenever they asked I told them where we were.

      Even now, I cannot agree to those deliverables as I don't know if I can meet them. I was working flat out. Not fooling around.
      So because the timeline slipped, and even though you were keeping them advised, they are not paying 2 months invoices? brutal!

      Assuming all is well your side, how can they pin a rubbish development team on one person?

      At what point did you know the deadline was not going to happen. Immediately you were told ("we'll never hit that")... or only once dev got underway. I understand you were keeping them uptodate at that point.

      Sounds like you are the fall guy, but then they do seem to want to keep you on. That definitely does not sound right. Sounds very messy.

      Good luck.

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        #13
        Originally posted by jmo21 View Post
        At what point did you know the deadline was not going to happen. Immediately you were told ("we'll never hit that")... or only once dev got underway. I understand you were keeping them uptodate at that point.
        Almost immediately as we submitted the Work Breakdown Structure (WBS) which was three times the estimate they had even before the design was complete. But they persisted with their project plan. It was bound to slip. I didn't know it would come to haunt me like this. But, I never agreed to those aggressive deadlines. I was just asked to get on with it.

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          #14
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          Originally posted by jmo21 View Post
          So because the timeline slipped, and even though you were keeping them advised, they are not paying 2 months invoices? brutal!

          Assuming all is well your side, how can they pin a rubbish development team on one person?

          At what point did you know the deadline was not going to happen. Immediately you were told ("we'll never hit that")... or only once dev got underway. I understand you were keeping them uptodate at that point.

          Sounds like you are the fall guy, but then they do seem to want to keep you on. That definitely does not sound right. Sounds very messy.

          Good luck.
          Well, if they can get someone to carry on working without being paid....

          To the OP, what deliverables are you responsible for (contractually), what deliverables have you taken responsibility for (practically) and how much control/involvement/responsibility do you have with the offshore team?

          And also good luck.

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            #15
            Originally posted by andy12345 View Post
            Almost immediately as we submitted the Work Breakdown Structure (WBS) which was three times the estimate they had even before the design was complete. But they persisted with their project plan. It was bound to slip. I didn't know it would come to haunt me like this. But, I never agreed to those aggressive deadlines. I was just asked to get on with it.
            Who is "we"?

            Are you paying the offshore dev team to do this work? or do the offshore team "belong" to the end client or the consultancy?

            sounds fishy.

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              #16
              Lesson 1, do not opt out (not always easy to achieve).
              Lesson 2, always get your timesheets signed at the relevant time as refusal to sign is a pointer to something being wrong!
              Lesson 3, dont depend on your agent to fight your corner. They get more business from the client to care about you.

              Sounds like a stitch up of a new contractor to me with eff all help from the agency.
              I couldn't give two fornicators! Yes, really!

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                #17
                Originally posted by jmo21 View Post
                Who is "we"?

                Are you paying the offshore dev team to do this work? or do the offshore team "belong" to the end client or the consultancy?

                sounds fishy.
                No, its a multi-national company. The offshore team is theirs (A). Not mine.

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                  #18
                  Originally posted by andy12345 View Post
                  No, its a multi-national company. The offshore team is theirs (A). Not mine.
                  As you have now left start I'd politely tell them exactly what you want (paid), state the contract does not have that deadline in it, with any accompanying emails from you that show this date was never happening. Inform them if time sheet is not signed and invoice paid, you will start dunning.

                  Maybe even go straight to dunning as they are clearly not listening already.

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                    #19
                    Originally posted by jmo21 View Post
                    As you have now left start I'd politely tell them exactly what you want (paid), state the contract does not have that deadline in it, with any accompanying emails from you that show this date was never happening. Inform them if time sheet is not signed and invoice paid, you will start dunning.

                    Maybe even go straight to dunning as they are clearly not listening already.
                    Maybe worth talking to a debt recovery firm. I think one posts on here frequently though they don't know about dunning...
                    "You’re just a bad memory who doesn’t know when to go away" JR

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                      #20
                      Originally posted by SueEllen View Post
                      Maybe worth talking to a debt recovery firm. I think one posts on here frequently though they don't know about dunning...
                      I hope that's nothing to do with Clive Dunn, he was my grandad he was.

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