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27th November 2008, 09:33
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If I emigrated to US I'd be straight down the gun shop.
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27th November 2008, 09:37
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If the govt was serious about cutting back knife crime (scuse the pun) , then they would allow thigs to won handguns. Problem solved.
The rate of gun crime would go up, but that wasnt an election promise.
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27th November 2008, 09:40
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Think shotguns are used for hunting birds, which are very hard to hit with a single gun. Finding one on a farm would hardly be cause for concern.
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It's the sadistic nature of this 'sport' that concerns me. It's a perversion of nature for man to enjoy killing an maiming animals for fun. Hunter-gatherers often show great respect for the animals they kill for food, and don't do it simply for the thrill of the killing. It would be no better (though more skilful) if it were done with cross-bows or bare hands. |
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27th November 2008, 09:41
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If I emigrated to US I'd be straight down the gun shop.
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I suspect I would too, to protect myself from people with guns. |
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27th November 2008, 09:50
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Originally Posted by TimberWolf
... It's a perversion of nature for man to enjoy killing an maiming animals for fun.
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What, like cats and killer whales do. Quite naturally.
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... Hunter-gatherers often show great respect for the animals they kill for food, and don't do it simply for the thrill of the killing. ...
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Ah the Noble Savage at One with the Environment. Bit of a myth that one.
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27th November 2008, 10:05
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What, like cats and killer whales do. Quite naturally.
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Indeed, it is natural behaviour for a cat to torture animals. Hyenas will also eat an animal while it is still alive (unlike the big cats, I believe). We don't base our morals on cat behaviour though.
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Ah the Noble Savage at One with the Environment. Bit of a myth that one.
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If you watch natural history programmes, you'll often see hunter gathers perform quite elaborate rituals in respect for the animals they kill. I've not seen them kill and torture animals just for fun. |
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27th November 2008, 10:23
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Nice 50 cal rifle he's got there... bet the muzzle brake gives you less of a broken shoulder... |
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27th November 2008, 12:44
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If you watch natural history programmes, you'll often see hunter gathers perform quite elaborate rituals in respect for the animals they kill.
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Does that mean that next time I go for a KFC, I've got to deck myself in warpaint and stomp around the restaurant chanting shamanistic dirges, just so I can get my 3 piece Colonel's meal (with beans) ?
Oh well, if it makes you feel better, I'm all for it.
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27th November 2008, 12:52
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Does that mean that next time I go for a KFC, I've got to deck myself in warpaint and stomp around the restaurant chanting shamanistic dirges, just so I can get my 3 piece Colonel's meal (with beans) ?
Oh well, if it makes you feel better, I'm all for it.
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Christian often perform a ritual at meals times (saying grace), perhaps these derive from shamanistic dirges. |
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27th November 2008, 12:55
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Christian often perform a ritual at meals times (saying grace), perhaps these derive from shamanistic dirges.
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Ohhh good point !
I'd never thought of it like that, but since Xianity nicked a lot of stuff from the previous belief systems, it wouldn't suprise me if indeed your comment had an element of truth behind it.
Awarded +1 Point for most thought-provoking post of the day
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