Stoke & Copeland Elections

[GB9]

First time I ever remember a Govt turning over an opposition in a by election. Normally the other way around.

First since 82.

Where's Tim Farron to tell us this is a damning reflection of May's Brexit approach. Or is that only applicable in seats that voted massively against Brexit and where a new runway is to be built?

[administrator]

First time I ever remember a Govt turning over an opposition in a by election. Normally the other way around.

Mrs Harrison hailed the victory - the first by-election gain by a governing party since 1982 - as "a truly historic event".

Yup, shows how bad Comrade Corbyn is for Labour. Wonder what the Labour reaction to this will be. Tom Watson won't be dabbing like some teenage prick about this one I am sure.

[GB9]

Yup, shows how bad Comrade Corbyn is for Labour. Wonder what the Labour reaction to this will be. Tom Watson won't be dabbing like some teenage prick about this one I am sure.

You didn't hear him on the radio earlier then?

[administrator]

You didn't hear him on the radio earlier then?

No, did he say "Yo bruv, it's like a minor defeat innit. My man Corbyn is sick mate. Trus me, when it comes to the general election we gunna smash it. Like Tyson mate. Some dank bizniss gonna be unleashed."

[jamesbrown]

I'm sure he's blaming it on disunity or, basically, anything except himself. All the evidence points to him not standing down before the next GE, but I think he will, on reflection. When Abbott and McDonnell are calling for a turnaround in the polls within the year, you know there's pressure from within to leave an adequate gap for a leadership transition before the next GE. There won't be another leadership challenge, but I reckon he'll be gone within the year. The problem for Labour is that they're in structural decline. Fundamentally, Corbyn is neither the problem nor the solution, he's just a symptom.

[Platypus]

Where's Tim Farron to tell us this is a damning reflection of May's Brexit approach. Or is that only applicable in seats that voted massively against Brexit and where a new runway is to be built?

Or that as a percentage of the electorate eligible to vote, the Tory candidate actually lost - or at least does not represent the people and there should be a re-run.

[GB9]

Or that as a percentage of the electorate eligible to vote, the Tory candidate actually lost - or at least does not represent the people and there should be a re-run.

Eligible but couldn't be arsed? And by default the couldn't be arseds would have voted against May?

[GB9]

No, did he say "Yo bruv, it's like a minor defeat innit. My man Corbyn is sick mate. Trus me, when it comes to the general election we gunna smash it. Like Tyson mate. Some dank bizniss gonna be unleashed."

May honeymoon
Blair and Mandelslime
In the wake of Brexit
Tories are divided over Brexit, not Labour. This will become evident.
Blah.

[SueEllen]

I'm sure he's blaming it on disunity or, basically, anything except himself. All the evidence points to him not standing down before the next GE, but I think he will, on reflection. When Abbott and McDonnell are calling for a turnaround in the polls within the year, you know there's pressure from within to leave an adequate gap for a leadership transition before the next GE. There won't be another leadership challenge, but I reckon he'll be gone within the year. The problem for Labour is that they're in structural decline. Fundamentally, Corbyn is neither the problem nor the solution, he's just a symptom.

Labour need strategists like Blair and co. to take the party in an electable direction.

Oh and how did UKIP lose in Stoke?

[vetran]

Oh and how did UKIP lose in Stoke?

Nuttal is pretty much unelectable.

Nigel can do the bloke in the pub without putting his foot in it, Nuttal can't.

They need serious politicians to capitalise on their success.