Umbrella cancelling previous expense claims

[NotAllThere]

What a load of bulltulip are slave masters come out with.

So you do a 6 month stint somewhere via an umbrella, you then start your own business to contract through. The 6 month stint is classed as "permanent", despite having a temporary contract for 6 month.

In order for it to qualify as temporary then you must work in more than one location for the same employer. The 6 month stint is merely one work placement by your brolly. When you start your next contract, you're still working for your brolly.

What would be interesting is to find out how a consultant employed by Accenture, for example, would be treated if he began his employment at client site, then quit to join IBM consulting, without ever having worked on another client site. If "expectation" isn't valid, then presumably, he'd have to pay back the tax on T&S.

[escapeUK]

In order for it to qualify as temporary then you must work in more than one location for the same employer. The 6 month stint is merely one work placement by your brolly. When you start your next contract, you're still working for your brolly.

Which of course is the problem, we dont work for our brolleys they work for us. It is employment in name only to avoid handling onerous tax affairs outselves, name me one other employment where the employee selects the employer. We then try to match regulations written for real employment with a fake employment relationship and wonder why the rules become stupid.

[Contreras]

I remember when I was with an umbrella, I had one client who needed me perhaps one day every 4 months. The first 6 month contract expired having worked only one day, to save messing around every 6 months the client put a long finish date on the contract. The umbrella then told me I couldnt claim expenses as it would be over 24 months. Because working 6 days in 24 months, yes that's obviously a permanent employment.

If you are on site for less than 40% of the time then 24-month rule does not apply, period.