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C# is just Java…only a little worse

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    #11
    Re: Java sucks - according to Sun!

    There is a leaked internal memo from Sun saying that Java should not be used for any internal systems at Sun because the whole implementation sucks.:lol

    If that is not evidence enough to put any big co from using Java I don't know what is.

    www.pcworld.com/news/article/0,aid,109301,00.asp

    Senior engineers at Sun Microsystems had serious doubts about using Java to build commercial applications for the company's own Solaris operating system, according to a memo leaked onto the Internet last week.

    "While the Java language provides many advantages over C and C++, its implementation on Solaris presents barriers to the delivery of reliable applications. These barriers prevent general acceptance of Java for production software within Sun," according to the memo, which was apparently written by a Sun engineer and appeared last week on the Web site InternalMemos.com.

    The memo appears as something of an embarrassment for Sun, suggesting that it had trouble implementing Java, which it invented, on its own operating system. The company downplayed its significance, however, calling it "a two-year-old document which refers to an old implementation of Java technology."

    "It doesn't represent Sun's position or the reality of our implementation today. The issues mentioned in the memo are irrelevant at this point," the company said in a statement. The author of the memo, which is undated, declined to comment, citing company policy.

    The Java Problem
    The memo recounts a litany of concerns about Java that were shared by "several senior engineers" at Sun. Titled "The Java Problem," it describes "the difficulties that keep our Solaris Java implementation from being practical for the development of common software applications."

    Among them, it states that the Java Runtime Environment (JRE), a key part of the Java platform, was too large, which had a "drastic effect" on performance and system resources. It suggests the JRE could be reduced in size by around 80 percent.

    It also faults the support model for Java within Sun. Java upgrades were released every four to five months and introduced new bugs as well as fixing old ones. The upgrades replaced earlier releases entirely and couldn't be reversed in the event of error. In addition, around one-fifth of Java bugs reported internally to Sun were quickly closed as "do not fix," compared to 7 percent for bugs involving C++, the memo states.

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      #12
      Dim if thats not a secret how much you get paid and for what kind of projects? like briefly describe it without names and details please?

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        #13
        re: PCWorld

        Ah its on PCWorld, the firm that sells Simpsons mouse mats & printer cartridges. Reputable.

        Remember this story is "alleged". And without firm facts it doesn't mean anything.

        I'm happy to know that if I write a program in Java, its not chained to an O/S.

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          #14
          I am currently doing a lot of work for a company who sell operating systems, office productivity packages and enterprise level server products. All .NET

          My rate varies depending on the client. Top money £500/day. Usually around £400.

          I do work for several clients at the same time (evenings and weekends), including support work.

          I have had about 6 weeks slack time over the last 12 months.

          Luvvly Jubbly.

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            #15
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            PCWorld then yeh?

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