IPV6 for hosting

[Spoiler]

Cheers - hadn't thought of doing that route! Even so, until we have everyone on an IPV6 enabled machine then you can't use just IPV6 A records, you will still need to maintain an IPV4 route to the host otherwise you will miss traffic. Or that was the conclusion I came to... Let me know if I am wrong!

There are technologies that enable IPv4 user to access an IPv6-only site, but I think that's something best avoided for now! Perhaps it would be nice to offer access to a site that is both IPv4 & IPv6 reachable, for those who are starting to run dual stack or use IPv6, especially if it's an IT-focused site. Not sure the demand is high enough yet though for it to be a real requirement.

[administrator]

You don't necessarily have to use the DNS services of the domain registrar; you can manage your DNS zone with another provider and then just change the DNS nameservers with the registrar (from theirs to your new ones).

Example:
Register domains with 123-reg.
Host the DNS zones with he.net.
In the 123-reg control panel, you can edit the DNS nameservers and change them from the 123-reg DNS servers to he.net's DNS servers.

So, if your domain registrar doesn't support AAAA records, see if you can move the DNS zone elsewhere.

Cheers - hadn't thought of doing that route! Even so, until we have everyone on an IPV6 enabled machine then you can't use just IPV6 A records, you will still need to maintain an IPV4 route to the host otherwise you will miss traffic. Or that was the conclusion I came to... Let me know if I am wrong!

[Spoiler]

Cheers for the reply - was just kind of coming to that conclusion myself! So you need to have an AAAA record to whack your IPV6 address into.

So far:
123-Reg - Yes AAA record available
LCN - No presence of AAAA record
1 and 1 - No presence of AAAA record
Easily - Yes AAA record available
Domain Monster - Yes AAA record available
Daily - Yes AAA record available
Fasthosts - Yes AAA record available
GoDaddy - Yes AAA record available

So not a bad amount of them seem prepared.

You don't necessarily have to use the DNS services of the domain registrar; you can manage your DNS zone with another provider and then just change the DNS nameservers with the registrar (from theirs to your new ones).

Example:
Register domains with 123-reg.
Host the DNS zones with he.net.
In the 123-reg control panel, you can edit the DNS nameservers and change them from the 123-reg DNS servers to he.net's DNS servers.

So, if your domain registrar doesn't support AAAA records, see if you can move the DNS zone elsewhere.

[administrator]

Ahhhh, that's the downfall Easy to manage at domain level, easy to manage at host level but fukxed at seat level. Bugger

[smatty]

Depends what you mean by "break the internet" Nobody will be able to see your site unless they're on IPv6, are running IPv6 tunnelling or use some kind of v4/v6 gateway like sixxs. There are mapping mechanisms but they're not automatic. According to google it's about 1% of users that are IPv6 capable.

To test it, try to browse to Juniper's IPv6 only site.

[kingcook]

Thanks. I am pretty sure that is it.

2001:1b50:4000:3::58b4:bb19/128

Is basically

2001:1b50:4000:3000:0000:0000:58b4:bb19

The 3 is 3000 and the :: is 0000:0000

The /128 shows that the leading 128 bits are the host id portion of the address. So now all I need to do is get Apache / lighttpd listening on the IPV6 addresses and I should be good to go. Will report back how I get on...

LCN have said they have no plans to put IPV6 in (idiots!) and 1 and 1 have passed the comment on... Nice to see so many others supporting it though.

The 3 is 0003, not 3000

And yes the :: is 0000:0000

[administrator]

Doesn't the :: stand for as many zeros as are needed to make it work? I.e. :0000:0000: or whatever is needed?

Thanks. I am pretty sure that is it.

2001:1b50:4000:3::58b4:bb19/128

Is basically

2001:1b50:4000:3000:0000:0000:58b4:bb19

The 3 is 3000 and the :: is 0000:0000

The /128 shows that the leading 128 bits are the host id portion of the address. So now all I need to do is get Apache / lighttpd listening on the IPV6 addresses and I should be good to go. Will report back how I get on...

LCN have said they have no plans to put IPV6 in (idiots!) and 1 and 1 have passed the comment on... Nice to see so many others supporting it though.

[doodab]

Cheers for the reply - was just kind of coming to that conclusion myself! So you need to have an AAAA record to whack your IPV6 address into.

So far:
123-Reg - Yes AAA record available
LCN - No presence of AAAA record
1 and 1 - No presence of AAAA record
Easily - Yes AAA record available
Domain Monster - Yes AAA record available
Daily - Yes AAA record available
Fasthosts - Yes AAA record available
GoDaddy - Yes AAA record available

So not a bad amount of them seem prepared. Now, one of the recent VPS machines I took out gave me five addresses, the NIC is configured as so (Ubuntu):

iface venet0 inet6 manual
up ifconfig venet0 add 2001:1b50:4000:3::58b4:bb19/128
down ifconfig venet0 del 2001:1b50:4000:3::58b4:bb19/128

This is not the full IPV6 from what I can work out... Will shoot them an email to see what I have to stick in the AAAA record for it to work

Doesn't the :: stand for as many zeros as are needed to make it work? I.e. :0000:0000: or whatever is needed?

[administrator]

I didn't think that many ISPs supported IPv6. There is mapping from IPv6 between IPv4 so think you'll be okay.

Cheers for the reply - was just kind of coming to that conclusion myself! So you need to have an AAAA record to whack your IPV6 address into.

So far:
123-Reg - Yes AAA record available
LCN - No presence of AAAA record
1 and 1 - No presence of AAAA record
Easily - Yes AAA record available
Domain Monster - Yes AAA record available
Daily - Yes AAA record available
Fasthosts - Yes AAA record available
GoDaddy - Yes AAA record available

So not a bad amount of them seem prepared. Now, one of the recent VPS machines I took out gave me five addresses, the NIC is configured as so (Ubuntu):

iface venet0 inet6 manual
up ifconfig venet0 add 2001:1b50:4000:3::58b4:bb19/128
down ifconfig venet0 del 2001:1b50:4000:3::58b4:bb19/128

This is not the full IPV6 from what I can work out... Will shoot them an email to see what I have to stick in the AAAA record for it to work

[lilelvis2000]

I didn't think that many ISPs supported IPv6. There is mapping from IPv6 between IPv4 so think you'll be okay.

[administrator]

Anyone tried it yet? Yes, I have Googled - more than once

I have a new VPS with a good number of IPV6 addresses and I can set DNS records as being IPV6 but will it break the internet if I use it? IPv4 becoming a real pain in the arris...